Don’t panic.

In this Part 2 episode I picked up Professor Michael Davern.

Michael is the Professor of Accounting & Business Information Systems at the prestigious University of Melbourne. Michael has been working with AI since the 1990s and his depth of knowledge and experience in applying AI to real world problems is indeed, exceptional.  Michael tells me about:

• AI Does Not Remove Human Responsibility

• AI Is Powerful, But Most People Don’t Understand It

• The Most Important Skill Is Human Judgment

• AI Is Best Used as Augmentation, Not Full Automation

• AI Governance Is Primarily a Culture Problem

• AI Will Change Professional Development and Entry-Level Work

• Experienced Professionals May Be Better Positioned to Lead AI Adoption

• Asking the Right Question Matters More Than Finding Fast Answers

Learn more about Michael

Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-davern-62274328/

The Sh!t Happens Quote: In school, you're taught the lesson and then you're tested. In life, you're given a test that teaches you a lesson.

Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance

Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps them confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard.  To learn more, visit his website:

 www.aigovernancepartners.com.au

If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating and follow us for more episodes.

Don’t panic.

In this episode I picked up Duncan Brett

Duncan is the successful Chief Operating Officer at Decidr AI.

Duncan shares his perspectives about these topics:

- AI is Really About “Intelligence”, Not Just Models

- Governance, Sovereignty & Trust Are Becoming Core Business Issues

- Businesses Are Racing Into AI Without Foundations

- Department-Led AI Could Create Chaos

- Human + AI = Repurposing, Not Replacement

- AI Adoption is Primarily a Cultural Leadership Challenge

Learn more about Duncan

Duncan on LinkedIn:  linkedin.com/in/duncanbrett

Decidr website: https://www.decidr.ai/

The Sh!t Happens Quote: Sometimes you're the windscreen. Sometimes you’re the mosquito.

Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance

Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard. 

To watch this podcast on Youtube: Hitchhikers pod

To learn more, visit his website:

www.aigovernancepartners.com.au

If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes.

Don’t panic.

In this episode I picked up Professor Michael Davern.

Michael is the Professor of Accounting & Business Information Systems at the prestigious University of Melbourne. Michael has been working with AI since the 1990s and his depth of knowledge and experience in applying AI to real world human problems is indeed, exceptional. 

Michael chats about these topics:

• Asking the Right Question Matters More Than Finding Fast Answers

• AI Does Not Remove Human Responsibility

• AI Is Powerful — But Most People Don’t Understand It

• The Most Important Skill Is Human Judgment

• AI Is Best Used as Augmentation, Not Full Automation

• AI Governance Is Primarily a Culture Problem

• AI Will Change Professional Development and Entry-Level Work

• Experienced Professionals May Be Better Positioned to Lead AI Adoption

Learn more about Michael

Michael on LinkedIn: Michael Davern

Michael's article: The Conversation: AI threatens to eat business software

The Sh!t Happens Quote: In school, you're taught the lesson and then you're tested. In life, you're given a test that teaches you a lesson.

Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance

Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard. 

To watch this podcast on Youtube: Hitchhikers pod

To learn more, visit his website:

 www.aigovernancepartners.com.au

If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes.

Don’t panic.

In this episode I picked up Jacinta Whelan. Jacinta is the eminently successful lead Partner at Watermark Search Melbourne.

Jacinta specialises in placing seasoned C-Suite professionals in organisations for specific missions rather than permanent roles. Jacinta talks about AI as the opportunity of a lifetime, it all depends on how you look at it:

• AI adoption for older workers is primarily an attitude, not an age thing

• Leaders cannot outsource their AI understanding - they require hands-on engagement with AI tools and workflows.

• AI is reshaping work by automating routine tasks, allowing us humans to focus on higher-value work

• Organisations are moving toward “human + agent” operating models

• Functional business leaders (HR, marketing, finance, procurement, etc.) are becoming increasingly responsible for AI adoption within their own domains, rather than leaving AI solely to IT teams.

• Change management is emerging as one of the biggest barriers to AI adoption.

• Continuous learning and staying current with AI developments is now essential.

• Recruitment and talent management are evolving rapidly.

• Despite fears around AI disruption the future is bright. AI is another major technological shift that can augment human capability if guided with strong governance, ethics, and human judgment.

Learn more about Jacinta Whelan

Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jacintad

Listen to her Podcast: The Portfolio Pod - Podcast | TheInterimExecutive

Read her famous book: About | The Interim Executive

Visit her website:

http://www.watermarksearch.com.au

The Sh!t Happens Quote: Everything is OK in the end. If it's not OK, then it's not the end.

Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance

Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI Governance Standard. 

To watch this podcast on Youtube: Hitchhikers pod

To learn more, visit his website:  www.aigovernancepartners.com.au

If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating and follow us for more episodes from around the galaxy.

Don’t panic. 

In this episode I picked up Phil Cornish. Philip, our resident human in the loop, has over twenty years of board level experience across the commercial, government and not for profit sectors with particular experience in the community sector as a Board Chair.

Phil shares his AI perspectives in the context of a life well lived serving community and health organisations for his entire career.

Learn more about Philip

Philip Cornish on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/philipcornish

His company website: DK Sonin & Associates: Our team

Book recommendation: Going On and On: Why Our Longevity Threatens the Future by Lucinda Holdforth

Microsoft's "Sydney" AI fiasco in 2023: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_(Microsoft)

Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance

Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who partners with organisations to help them confidently adopt the Australian AI governance standard. 

To watch this podcast on Youtube: Hitchhikers pod

To learn more about what we do, visit our website:

 www.aigovernancepartners.com.au

If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating and follow us for more episodes.

Don’t panic. 

Today I speak with Neil Butler from Untypical, a boutique change management consulting practice. Neil has been delivery change for over 30 years across Australia and believes most of the way organisations do change is too process driven. We need stronger change leaders, less artefacts and a relentless focus on the outcomes we want to enable lasting change.

Neil shares his philosophy on why change has to change, to better prepare organisations for the AI era. Neil brings to life these interesting topics:

• How every company will transition to AI but only a handful will get the outcomes they want out of it

• Why change leadership is more important than a change management process
• Why an over-reliance on AI orchestrating change will get you into trouble
• Human engagement is now more important than communications
• Why his generation (over 50+) are best placed to manage the AI transition

Learn more about Neil

Neil Butler on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/neilabutler

Change change website: Change Change | The Art of Transformagination

Change change the book: https://changechange.au/book/

Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance

Hosted by AI Governance Partner, Bruce Mullan, who partners with organisations to help them confidently adopt the Australian AI governance standard.  To learn more about what we do, visit our website:

 www.aigovernancepartners.com.au

If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating and follow us for more episodes.

But don’t panic.  Today we speak with John Webb-O'Rourke and Shane McCarthy from Ambrion AI, an Irish intelligence company purpose built for the AI era. 

In this lively conversation, John and Shane share their starkly different AI Governance journeys, describe the state of AI governance transition in Ireland and the EU, share their recent AI successes along with some lamentable flaws of well-known AI tools. I found these topics thoroughly interesting:

• Why you should hire people aged 55+ to lead your AI transition and adoption
• Why you should personally use AI every day
• Why you can't trust any large language model even if the AI says "trust me".
• How AI tools can now hack into a system better than a human can
• Why AI systems and their governance needs to be built together but in parallel with your existing traditional systems (which will eventually be taken over)
• How agentic AI governance should exactly mimic real world management controls
• How AI capability overhang and AI adoption influences competitive advantage
• And why you can't bring a horse to a Formula 1 race.

Resource Recommendations

Garbage in Gospel out - the practitioners workbook for transforming AI governance -  https://www.amazon.com.au/Garbage-Gospel-Out-Practitioners-Transforming-ebook/dp/B0GGM6FRH5

Digital Transformation Agency 42 Statements -  https://www.digital.gov.au/policy/ai/AI-technical-standard

Learn more about John and Shane

John Webb-O'Rourke on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/john-webb-o-rourke-219b4315

Shane McCarthy on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/shanemcsocial

Ambrion AI website:  https://ambrion.ai/

Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance

 Each episode, we’ll be talking with the people who are actually trying to write, challenge, and implement the rules of AI: 

• policymakers and regulators wrestling with rapidly changing technology, 
• researchers and ethicists asking how to align powerful systems with human values, 
• industry leaders navigating safety, competition, and responsibility, 
• and civil society voices making sure we don’t forget the humans in the loop.

Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who partners with organisations to help them confidently adopt the Australian AI governance standard.  To learn more about what we do, visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au

If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating and follow us for future episodes.

But don’t panic.  Today we speak with Dr Darryl Carlton, author of 8 books including his latest and most successful: Garbage in gospel out, the practitioners workbook for transforming AI governance.

In this in-depth interview, Dr Darryl Carlton shares his 50+ years of experience in AI, discussing the evolution of AI systems, governance challenges, and practical advice for leaders navigating the AI landscape. He highlights the importance of built-in governance, the pitfalls of overhyped AI concepts, and the future of agentic commerce.

Resource Recommendations

The Machine That Changed the World - The Story of Lean Production - https://www.amazon.com.au/Machine-That-Changed-World/dp/0743299795

Improving Performance: How to manage the white space on the organization chart - https://www.amazon.com/Improving-Performance-Organization-Jossey-Bass-management/dp/1555422144

Garbage in Gospel out - the practitioners workbook for transforming AI governance - https://www.amazon.com.au/Garbage-Gospel-Out-Practitioners-Transforming-ebook/dp/B0GGM6FRH5

Digital Transformation Agency 42 Statements - https://www.digital.gov.au/policy/ai/AI-technical-standard

Learn more about Dr Darryl Carlton

Dr Darryl Carlton on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrylcarlton

Vendeex Agentic Commerce website: https://www.vendeex.com/

About The Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance

Each episode, we’ll be talking with the people who are actually trying to write, challenge, and implement the rules of AI: 

- policymakers and regulators wrestling with rapidly changing technology, 

- researchers and ethicists asking how to align powerful systems with human values, 

- industry leaders navigating safety, competition, and responsibility, 

- and civil society voices making sure we don’t forget the humans in the loop.

Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who partners with organisations to help them confidently adopt the Australian AI governance standard.  To learn more about what we do, visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au