<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Two Mics, No Masking]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><b>Two Mics, No Masking</b> is a podcast about what it really means to be neurodivergent at home, at work, and in a world that often misunderstands how our brains work.</p><p></p><p>Hosted by Katie Scott (founder of <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.thecollectiveagency.cc/" target="_blank">THE COLLECTIVE</a>) and Jenna Goldstein (founder of <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://nd3.org/" target="_blank">ND3</a>), best friends, late-identified autistic women, and parents to neurodivergent children - the show explores neurodivergence with honesty, humor, and depth. From parenting and relationships to burnout, identity, and the systems we’re constantly navigating, each episode digs beneath the surface to name what’s actually happening, without fixing, performing, or pretending.</p><p></p><p>This is a space for unmasked conversations:</p><ul><li>about being “too much” and “not enough,”</li><li>about resilience that turns into exhaustion,</li><li>about sensitivity, intensity, and brilliance that deserve room to exist.</li></ul><p></p><p>If you’ve ever felt like you were resizing yourself to fit the room, this podcast is for you.</p>]]></description><link>https://riverside.com</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2026 19:37:18 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/3aL3Rp5m.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Katie Scott, Jenna Goldstein]]></author><pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 21:45:34 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Katie Scott, Jenna Goldstein]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Society & Culture]]></category><category><![CDATA[Kids & Family]]></category><itunes:author>Katie Scott, Jenna Goldstein</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Two Mics, No Masking&lt;/b&gt; is a podcast about what it really means to be neurodivergent at home, at work, and in a world that often misunderstands how our brains work.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hosted by Katie Scott (founder of &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.thecollectiveagency.cc/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;THE COLLECTIVE&lt;/a&gt;) and Jenna Goldstein (founder of &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://nd3.org/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;ND3&lt;/a&gt;), best friends, late-identified autistic women, and parents to neurodivergent children - the show explores neurodivergence with honesty, humor, and depth. From parenting and relationships to burnout, identity, and the systems we’re constantly navigating, each episode digs beneath the surface to name what’s actually happening, without fixing, performing, or pretending.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is a space for unmasked conversations:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;about being “too much” and “not enough,”&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;about resilience that turns into exhaustion,&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;about sensitivity, intensity, and brilliance that deserve room to exist.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you’ve ever felt like you were resizing yourself to fit the room, this podcast is for you.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Katie Scott, Jenna Goldstein</itunes:name><itunes:email>katie@thecollectiveagency.cc</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"/><itunes:category text="Kids &amp; Family"/><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fdda05a2-51ab-43b2-8c39-eb724ded590f/logos/e2a1af29-776e-45a5-819f-c4b8d7df6998.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[S1, EP. 3: Humor as Kryptonite to Hierarchy]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Humor isn’t just levity — it’s often a form of resistance. Especially for neurodivergent people navigating spaces built on hierarchy, unspoken rules, and rigid power dynamics.</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Jenna and Katie explore how humor disrupts control, flattens hierarchy, and shifts the energy in rooms where compliance is expected. They talk about why neurodivergent humor can feel threatening to systems built on authority, why laughter often reveals truths people would rather avoid, and how going “off script” can create unexpected equity.</p><p></p><p>This conversation looks at humor not as avoidance or deflection, but as a powerful tool for survival, connection, and truth-telling.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">2ab92fcb-846b-4a07-984c-727d1c1e3ffd</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Katie Scott, Jenna Goldstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 02:49:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/4a26d7ccb8ee88f94bb7dcbdd7390b423ed6aecedbabe2f42a4bc0e09b3d0742/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIyYWI5MmZjYi04NDZiLTRhMDctOTg0Yy03MjdkMWMxZTNmZmQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmZGRhMDVhMi01MWFiLTQzYjItOGMzOS1lYjcyNGRlZDU5MGYiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NzliYWE5NTMyOTk3YzEwYmFmNTIyMTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk4MmIzYjkwMDAwNmU1YzVmOWQ4N2QwL2thdGhyeW4tc2NvdHRzLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTItNF9fMy00OS0yOS5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="61237019" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Humor isn’t just levity — it’s often a form of resistance. Especially for neurodivergent people navigating spaces built on hierarchy, unspoken rules, and rigid power dynamics.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Jenna and Katie explore how humor disrupts control, flattens hierarchy, and shifts the energy in rooms where compliance is expected. They talk about why neurodivergent humor can feel threatening to systems built on authority, why laughter often reveals truths people would rather avoid, and how going “off script” can create unexpected equity.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This conversation looks at humor not as avoidance or deflection, but as a powerful tool for survival, connection, and truth-telling.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:42:32</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fdda05a2-51ab-43b2-8c39-eb724ded590f/logos/e2a1af29-776e-45a5-819f-c4b8d7df6998.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:title>S1, EP. 3: Humor as Kryptonite to Hierarchy</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[S1, EP. 2: Behaviorism as Hubris]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Behaviorism teaches us to focus on what’s visible — compliance, control, “good behavior” — while ignoring the inner experience driving it. For neurodivergent people, that often means being shaped, managed, or corrected instead of understood.</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Jenna and Katie examine how behaviorism became the default lens in schools, workplaces, and helping professions — and why that approach is rooted in the belief that one way of being should dominate all others. They unpack how this mindset harms neurodivergent kids and adults, rewards masking, and turns survival into a measure of success.</p><p></p><p>This conversation challenges the idea that behavior equals truth and offers a different framework: seeing behavior as communication, context, and nervous-system information — not a problem to fix.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">e12d6b1d-7e86-401e-882a-f01805047962</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Katie Scott, Jenna Goldstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 02:09:27 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/7b4f953b569a358ed5d09fe11314458ca6f4c7f75938ac7bb46129748f7b967c/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJlMTJkNmIxZC03ZTg2LTQwMWUtODgyYS1mMDE4MDUwNDc5NjIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmZGRhMDVhMi01MWFiLTQzYjItOGMzOS1lYjcyNGRlZDU5MGYiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NzliYWE5NTMyOTk3YzEwYmFmNTIyMTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk4MmFhNzM1ZDA5MTVmYTU4ODI3YmI4L2thdGhyeW4tc2NvdHRzLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTItNF9fMy05LTU1Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="54255429" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Behaviorism teaches us to focus on what’s visible — compliance, control, “good behavior” — while ignoring the inner experience driving it. For neurodivergent people, that often means being shaped, managed, or corrected instead of understood.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Jenna and Katie examine how behaviorism became the default lens in schools, workplaces, and helping professions — and why that approach is rooted in the belief that one way of being should dominate all others. They unpack how this mindset harms neurodivergent kids and adults, rewards masking, and turns survival into a measure of success.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This conversation challenges the idea that behavior equals truth and offers a different framework: seeing behavior as communication, context, and nervous-system information — not a problem to fix.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:37:41</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fdda05a2-51ab-43b2-8c39-eb724ded590f/logos/e2a1af29-776e-45a5-819f-c4b8d7df6998.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:title>S1, EP. 2: Behaviorism as Hubris</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[S1, EP. 1: You're Too Much / You're Not Enough]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>From “calm down” to “try harder,” neurodivergent people are often caught in a double bind: being told we’re too much in some moments and not enough in others — sometimes by the same people, in the same spaces.</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Jenna and Katie unpack where that contradiction comes from, how it shows up in schools, workplaces, and families, and what it does to our sense of self over time. They explore how sensitivity, enthusiasm, and intensity get mislabeled as problems to manage — and what changes when we stop trying to contain those traits and start understanding them instead.</p><p></p><p>This conversation sets the foundation for the show: honest, unmasked, and willing to question the systems that taught us to shrink, stretch, and perform in order to belong.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">555aebf2-2e42-4227-88f4-1eb93461560a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Katie Scott, Jenna Goldstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2026 23:22:03 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/0a244f4bc8da39060ca05bedef163e4242c0e7a398a146c444c2f6d88eb81859/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1NTVhZWJmMi0yZTQyLTQyMjctODhmNC0xZWI5MzQ2MTU2MGEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmZGRhMDVhMi01MWFiLTQzYjItOGMzOS1lYjcyNGRlZDU5MGYiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NzliYWE5NTMyOTk3YzEwYmFmNTIyMTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk4MjgzOGFhODU5NjE1NTlhOWE0N2FmL2thdGhyeW4tc2NvdHRzLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTItNF9fMC0yMy01NC5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="65739694" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;From “calm down” to “try harder,” neurodivergent people are often caught in a double bind: being told we’re too much in some moments and not enough in others — sometimes by the same people, in the same spaces.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Jenna and Katie unpack where that contradiction comes from, how it shows up in schools, workplaces, and families, and what it does to our sense of self over time. They explore how sensitivity, enthusiasm, and intensity get mislabeled as problems to manage — and what changes when we stop trying to contain those traits and start understanding them instead.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This conversation sets the foundation for the show: honest, unmasked, and willing to question the systems that taught us to shrink, stretch, and perform in order to belong.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:45:39</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fdda05a2-51ab-43b2-8c39-eb724ded590f/logos/e2a1af29-776e-45a5-819f-c4b8d7df6998.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:title>S1, EP. 1: You&apos;re Too Much / You&apos;re Not Enough</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[S1, EP. 0: What It's All About]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Unlock the truth about living unmasked as neurodivergent women. Katie and Jenna share raw stories of navigating systems built without us in mind—breaking free from shame, masking, and misunderstanding. If you're tired of hiding your authentic self and want real insights into embracing your neurodivergence, this episode is your game-changer.</p><p></p><p>Most conversations around neurodivergence focus on fixing what’s "wrong." Katie and Jenna flip the script, revealing how embracing your true self can lead to more joy, clarity, and connection—without the guilt or burnout. They unpack how systemic barriers reinforce feelings of otherness, and how stopping masking is more than a choice—it's a revolutionary act of self-love and liberation.</p><p></p><p>You'll discover:</p><ul><li>How late diagnosis can be a hidden gift, not just a challenge</li><li>Practical ways to reclaim authenticity in work, family, and relationships</li><li>The importance of challenging societal expectations around neurodivergence</li><li>Why unmasking is essential for mental health and community building</li><li>The humor and resilience that come with embracing your true self</li></ul><p></p><p>This isn’t just a podcast—it's a movement toward understanding and celebrating neurodivergent identity without apology. If you’re tired of pretending and ready to live on your own terms, this episode is for you. It’s a vital listen for neurodivergent women, allies, and anyone questioning the norms they've been told to accept.</p><p></p><p>Join Katie and Jenna as they reveal that true freedom begins with shedding the masks society forces on us—and finally living as our authentic selves.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">6240d926-5287-44af-a5a2-0ad8116d6926</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Katie Scott, Jenna Goldstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 22:30:10 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/96a925dc590716ce70f5193afcc2fee228ba4d2d93b14d83afa42bb8985aea4a/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI2MjQwZDkyNi01Mjg3LTQ0YWYtYTVhMi0wYWQ4MTE2ZDY5MjYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmZGRhMDVhMi01MWFiLTQzYjItOGMzOS1lYjcyNGRlZDU5MGYiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NzliYWE5NTMyOTk3YzEwYmFmNTIyMTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk3YThlMDNjZjFmOGE3OWM2ZjRkYzRlL2thdGhyeW4tc2NvdHRzLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTEtMjhfXzIzLTMwLTI3Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="857566" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Unlock the truth about living unmasked as neurodivergent women. Katie and Jenna share raw stories of navigating systems built without us in mind—breaking free from shame, masking, and misunderstanding. If you&apos;re tired of hiding your authentic self and want real insights into embracing your neurodivergence, this episode is your game-changer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most conversations around neurodivergence focus on fixing what’s &quot;wrong.&quot; Katie and Jenna flip the script, revealing how embracing your true self can lead to more joy, clarity, and connection—without the guilt or burnout. They unpack how systemic barriers reinforce feelings of otherness, and how stopping masking is more than a choice—it&apos;s a revolutionary act of self-love and liberation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You&apos;ll discover:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;How late diagnosis can be a hidden gift, not just a challenge&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Practical ways to reclaim authenticity in work, family, and relationships&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The importance of challenging societal expectations around neurodivergence&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why unmasking is essential for mental health and community building&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The humor and resilience that come with embracing your true self&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This isn’t just a podcast—it&apos;s a movement toward understanding and celebrating neurodivergent identity without apology. If you’re tired of pretending and ready to live on your own terms, this episode is for you. It’s a vital listen for neurodivergent women, allies, and anyone questioning the norms they&apos;ve been told to accept.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Join Katie and Jenna as they reveal that true freedom begins with shedding the masks society forces on us—and finally living as our authentic selves.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:01:17</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fdda05a2-51ab-43b2-8c39-eb724ded590f/logos/e2a1af29-776e-45a5-819f-c4b8d7df6998.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:title>S1, EP. 0: What It&apos;s All About</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>