<![CDATA[The Hesitant Healer]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.comRiverside.fm (https://riverside.com)Sun, 12 Apr 2026 00:40:30 GMTTue, 24 Mar 2026 19:34:43 GMT60John WebsterWhat if all you need to get better, in every way, was available at the touch of a hand, the sound of a voice or even a vibration? Let’s talk about how that happens, who can do it and where to find them. I grew up secretly believing that everything we need to get better is here on the earth. It took me 50 years and A LOT of life experience to find the tools to put in my toolbox to make that happen. Hang out with me as I explain what and who I found and how we do it.episodicJohn Websterjaypeeweb@yahoo.comyes<![CDATA[Ep 055: Swedish Death Cleaning]]>In this episode, John and Lisa discuss the concept of Swedish Death Cleaning and their own journeys of going through their parent's junk.

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]]>431836fa-1332-4cf5-bb93-7838f8923fdbThu, 09 Apr 2026 13:00:00 GMT<p>In this episode, John and Lisa discuss the concept of Swedish Death Cleaning and their own journeys of going through their parent's junk.</p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Swedish-Death-Cleaning-Yourself-Minimalist/dp/180154350X" target="_blank">Purchase Linnéa Gustafsson's book here</a></p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@redlandsmassagetherapy3534" target="_blank">Watch on Youtube</a><br /><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/redlandsmassagetherapy" target="_blank">Follow us on Instagram</a></p>yes00:47:13Ep 055: Swedish Death Cleaningfull<![CDATA[Ep 054: We Are Back]]>It has been a while!
In this episode, John and Lisa are back on the mic and now, in front of the camera too! Listen as they discuss what they have been up to during their time away from the podcast.

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]]>66616ee1-5b3b-4e1b-b77f-d24b170983e3Thu, 02 Apr 2026 13:00:00 GMT<p>It has been a while!<br />In this episode, John and Lisa are back on the mic and now, in front of the camera too! Listen as they discuss what they have been up to during their time away from the podcast.</p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qFtzAJCuZk&amp;list=PLIdoNOUySu6IPSurEek-B6ysGpmq2bhMv&amp;pp=sAgC" target="_blank">Watch on Youtube</a></p><p><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/redlandsmassagetherapy" target="_blank">Follow us on Instagram</a><br /></p>yes00:48:43Ep 054: We Are Backfull<![CDATA[Ep 001 [REVISITED]: The Beginning - How Did I Get Here?]]>thehesitanthealer@gmail.com Facebook: The Hesitant Healer  ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-001-revisit/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/9fc1b61f-3f29-35fb-b25e-c840d019b29fThu, 24 Aug 2023 08:01:00 GMTJohn Webster, The Hesitant Healer talks about the life experiences he has had that lead him to being the healer he is today.  He speaks about sobriety, his time as a chef, working in a jail and then for the San Bernardino Sheriff Department.  John tells us about his decision to go to Massage School, and then some of the classes he sought after completing Massage school.  It's been a wild journey and John introduces his experiences to us.   email: <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a> Facebook: The Hesitant Healer  yes00:14:1425Ep 001 [REVISITED]: The Beginning - How Did I Get Here?full<![CDATA[Ep 048: What is Somatic Healing with Shannan Blum]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-048-what-is-somatic-healing-with-shannan-blum/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/fa0425fb-1002-3c0f-a28e-033a740dad89Thu, 25 Apr 2024 08:00:00 GMTTrigger warning: this episode mentions both child abuse and sexual assault. Listeners who may be sensitive to these subjects are urged to be cautious should you choose to listen.  On today’s episode John and Lisa Kay speak to Shannan Blum - a gifted Marriage and Family Therapist about somatic therapy, What it does and who it can help.  We talk about an upcoming retreat that will feature Shannan, John and other gifted therapists all with the goal of helping you on your journey towards healing and wholeness.  During the discussion the book “The Body Keeps the Score” is referred to. yes00:45:2753Ep 048: What is Somatic Healing with Shannan Blumfull<![CDATA[Ep 046: Living Healthy with Becky B]]>On today’s episode- John and Lisa Kay speak to the wonderful “Becky- B” a friend and a long- time client. Listen as she describes her journey towards health, a challenging childhood, marriage to her high school sweetheart, learning about natural ways to heal herself and her family. We hope you enjoy listening to our chat!

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-046-living-healthy-with-becky-b/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/6c63e403-ae29-330e-99ee-3246eadd5f03Thu, 11 Apr 2024 08:00:00 GMT<p>On today’s episode- John and Lisa Kay speak to the wonderful “Becky- B” a friend and a long- time client. Listen as she describes her journey towards health, a challenging childhood, marriage to her high school sweetheart, learning about natural ways to heal herself and her family. We hope you enjoy listening to our chat!</p> yes00:51:0851Ep 046: Living Healthy with Becky Bfull<![CDATA[Ep 045: An Apple a Day Keeps the Sneezes Away?]]>On this episode, John and Lisa talk about that spring=time challenge - allergies. Can what you eat or some simple at home practices help keep your allergies at bay? Give a listen for some tips on helping your body with its allergies

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-045-an-apple-a-day-keeps-the-sneezes-away/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/2150a718-2f1a-3fb1-9ae4-89ee75cbdf01Thu, 04 Apr 2024 08:00:00 GMT<p>On this episode, John and Lisa talk about that spring=time challenge - allergies. Can what you eat or some simple at home practices help keep your allergies at bay? Give a listen for some tips on helping your body with its allergies</p> yes00:39:2850Ep 045: An Apple a Day Keeps the Sneezes Away?full<![CDATA[Ep 001: The Beginning - How Did I Get Here?]]>thehesitanthealer@gmail.com Facebook: The Hesitant Healer  ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-001/lisakayprt.podbean.com/451f168b-8ab2-33c7-9414-1aa68b36c408Tue, 21 Mar 2023 23:49:55 GMTJohn Webster, The Hesitant Healer talks about the life experiences he has had that lead him to being the healer he is today.  He speaks about sobriety, his time as a chef, working in a jail and then for the San Bernardino Sheriff Department.  John tells us about his decision to go to Massage School, and then some of the classes he sought after completing Massage school.  It's been a wild journey and John introduces his experiences to us.   email: <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a> Facebook: The Hesitant Healer  yes00:14:141Ep 001: The Beginning - How Did I Get Here?full<![CDATA[Ep 009: A Journey with Grief - Liz’s Story]]>On today's episode, Liz shares her intimate journey with grief. Liz is a client who has seen John at Redlands Massage Therapy for several years. She discusses her personal tragedy, the immediate effects, and the feelings and emotions in the weeks and months that followed. 

Liz talks about the understandings that she has come to in the last two years and some of the modalities she has sought during this time.  Liz mentions Michelle Pina during the podcast. Michelle is a Spiritual Conduit who seeks to guide those who have questions about those who have left this world. Michelle can be reached at the office of Redlands Massage Therapy, 909-557-4415,  for more information or to schedule an appointment.  In the beginning of the podcast, John and LisaKay give a shout out to Lisa Vest - owner of Vasa the Yoga Studio in Redlands, California. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-009-a-journey-with-grief-liz-s-story/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/8f1c6090-0967-3a39-849e-65436ee78609Thu, 04 May 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>On today's episode, Liz shares her intimate journey with grief. Liz is a client who has seen John at Redlands Massage Therapy for several years. She discusses her personal tragedy, the immediate effects, and the feelings and emotions in the weeks and months that followed. </p> Liz talks about the understandings that she has come to in the last two years and some of the modalities she has sought during this time.  Liz mentions Michelle Pina during the podcast. Michelle is a Spiritual Conduit who seeks to guide those who have questions about those who have left this world. Michelle can be reached at the office of Redlands Massage Therapy, 909-557-4415,  for more information or to schedule an appointment.  In the beginning of the podcast, John and LisaKay give a shout out to Lisa Vest - owner of Vasa the Yoga Studio in Redlands, California. yes00:54:359Ep 009: A Journey with Grief - Liz’s Storyfull<![CDATA[Ep 047: Exploring Plant Medicine with Adrian]]>On today's episode, John and Lisa Kay speak with Adrian, a plant medicine educator. Adrian speaks about his own journey with plant medicine, and his role as a facilitator of all that plant medicine can offer. We hope you enjoy it. 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-047-exploring-plant-medicine-with-adrian/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/6e3e0900-7b10-3ef5-b797-5579b83544eeThu, 18 Apr 2024 18:01:06 GMT<p>On today's episode, John and Lisa Kay speak with Adrian, a plant medicine educator. Adrian speaks about his own journey with plant medicine, and his role as a facilitator of all that plant medicine can offer. We hope you enjoy it. </p> yes00:47:4152Ep 047: Exploring Plant Medicine with Adrianfull<![CDATA[Ep 037: A Conversation with Shannan Blum]]>In today's episode, John and Lisa Kay speak with Shannan Blum,  a LMFT. We discuss the journey Shannan took to get to her current occupation. We discuss the very real connection between body and mind and somatic body based practices. In this discussion, we mention Lori Hendrickson CST, Integrated Intentions in Truth or Consequences New Mexico and the practice of EMDR. Reach out to Shannan at Shannanblummft on Instagram, or at sbmftservices.com. 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-037-a-conversation-with-shannan-blum/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/da6a54f5-9337-34bf-b606-18a27028fde7Thu, 30 Nov 2023 09:00:00 GMT<p>In today's episode, John and Lisa Kay speak with Shannan Blum,  a LMFT. We discuss the journey Shannan took to get to her current occupation. We discuss the very real connection between body and mind and somatic body based practices. In this discussion, we mention Lori Hendrickson CST, Integrated Intentions in Truth or Consequences New Mexico and the practice of EMDR. Reach out to Shannan at Shannanblummft on Instagram, or at <a href="http://sbmftservices.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">sbmftservices.com</a>. </p> yes00:51:0539Ep 037: A Conversation with Shannan Blumfull<![CDATA[Ep 032: What Can We Learn From Failure?]]>In this episode, we explore the question, what are some of the biggest failures in your life, and what did you learn from them?

We talk about some big failures,and what recovery from them looked like.  We mention the book "The Last Lecture" by Randy Pausch.  We also take a look at the lives of some very big failures, such as J.K. Rowling, Mark Cuban and Oprah Winfrey. All failed, but turned their failures into success.  Listen in to our discussion. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-032-what-can-we-learn-from-failure/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/f352a933-0a5b-37ba-a9fc-e5a01b54f69aThu, 26 Oct 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>In this episode, we explore the question, what are some of the biggest failures in your life, and what did you learn from them?</p> We talk about some big failures,and what recovery from them looked like.  We mention the book "The Last Lecture" by Randy Pausch.  We also take a look at the lives of some very big failures, such as J.K. Rowling, Mark Cuban and Oprah Winfrey. All failed, but turned their failures into success.  Listen in to our discussion. yes00:43:2834Ep 032: What Can We Learn From Failure?full<![CDATA[Ep 002: Lisa Kay’s Story Or Why Should You Seek Alternative Healing Modalities]]>John Webster's sidekick and business partner, Lisa Kay talks about how she ended up back in Southern California, the surgical accident that at first left her hopeless, and then lead to her seeking alternative healing modalities. We hear a bit about emotions and physical healing and about the power of myofascial release.

 

email: thehesitanthealer@gmail.com Facebook: The Hesitant Healer ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-002-lisa-kay-s-story-or-why-should-you-seek-alternative-healing-modalities/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/16621941-3091-3340-b077-cf562f9b107aThu, 23 Mar 2023 18:28:09 GMT<p>John Webster's sidekick and business partner, Lisa Kay talks about how she ended up back in Southern California, the surgical accident that at first left her hopeless, and then lead to her seeking alternative healing modalities. We hear a bit about emotions and physical healing and about the power of myofascial release.</p> <p> </p> email: <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a> Facebook: The Hesitant Healer yes00:44:332Ep 002: Lisa Kay’s Story Or Why Should You Seek Alternative Healing Modalitiesfull<![CDATA[Ep 049: Let's Talk About PDTR Therapy with Carl Alexander]]>On Today's episode, John and Lisa Kay speak to Carl Alexander, a manual therapist and PDTR practitioner. We hear about his journey and exactly what Proprioceptive Deep Tendon Reflex Therapy is.Carl is an instructor of PDTR and very knowledgeable - we talked about the brain, nerves, tendons, muscles and treatment that may influence how we perceive pain. We hope you enjoy it! 

 

 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-049-lets-talk-about-pdtr-therapy-with-carl-alexander/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/fb4476d1-958c-39fb-b963-130cfa76e190Thu, 02 May 2024 23:04:14 GMT<p>On Today's episode, John and Lisa Kay speak to Carl Alexander, a manual therapist and PDTR practitioner. We hear about his journey and exactly what Proprioceptive Deep Tendon Reflex Therapy is.Carl is an instructor of PDTR and very knowledgeable - we talked about the brain, nerves, tendons, muscles and treatment that may influence how we perceive pain. We hope you enjoy it! </p>   <p> </p> yes00:47:3054Ep 049: Let's Talk About PDTR Therapy with Carl Alexanderfull<![CDATA[Ep 044: Healing with Acupuncture]]>On Today's episode, John and Lisa speak with James Pulciani, BS, CMT, LAc and Executive Director of the Institute for Anatomical Research in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Jim practices acupuncture and Chinese Medicine as well as being an author and participating in the ongoing work of the Institute. We talk about treating with acupuncture, needle phobia, and what to expect when seeking treatment from a Chinese medicine expert. This episode was recorded while John was in Colorado Springs for a dissection class and we also get to hear a bit about the class and what is going on in the lab. We hope you enjoy listening in! .

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-044-healing-with-acupuncture/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/bba16829-ec8f-3dc5-af51-6cee60f79dd6Thu, 28 Mar 2024 08:00:00 GMT<p>On Today's episode, John and Lisa speak with James Pulciani, BS, CMT, LAc and Executive Director of the Institute for Anatomical Research in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Jim practices acupuncture and Chinese Medicine as well as being an author and participating in the ongoing work of the Institute. We talk about treating with acupuncture, needle phobia, and what to expect when seeking treatment from a Chinese medicine expert. This episode was recorded while John was in Colorado Springs for a dissection class and we also get to hear a bit about the class and what is going on in the lab. We hope you enjoy listening in! .</p> yes00:54:1249Ep 044: Healing with Acupuncturefull<![CDATA[Ep 043: Aging In A Healthy Way]]>Today, John and Lisa Kay talk about the “A” word…aging. Remember in your youth when you could tumble down a hill or bike all day or run and nothing hurt? Do you sometimes hurt something just getting out of bed now? Well - join the club! It’s a big club too! We hope you enjoy listening in. 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-043-aging-in-a-healthy-way/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/0b249565-6787-3d7d-b0ba-842d654cfff8Thu, 21 Mar 2024 08:00:00 GMT<p>Today, John and Lisa Kay talk about the “A” word…aging. Remember in your youth when you could tumble down a hill or bike all day or run and nothing hurt? Do you sometimes hurt something just getting out of bed now? Well - join the club! It’s a big club too! We hope you enjoy listening in. </p> yes00:52:1248Ep 043: Aging In A Healthy Wayfull<![CDATA[Ep 011: All about Tribe Featuring Cathie and Stephanie]]>In this week's episode, The Hesitant Healer was off on a retreat in lovely Idyllwild California - a healers retreat. The healers who joined us are a part of a Healer's Circle that we have that meets twice a month at our office in Redlands, California. 

A big thank you, again, to Ida, the owner of the Airbnb "the Mystery Lodge" in Idyllwild where we held our retreat.     Cathie shares a it what tribe means to her. Cathie is a wonderful Cranio-Sacral Therapist who has a practice in Redlands. To Contact Cathie, please call 909-658-5112.   Stephanie shares what a sense of tribe means to her. Stephanie is the owner of SS Neurofitness and a Physical Therapist who specializes in pediatrics. To contact Stephanie, reach out to her at stephanie@ssneurofitness.com.  In the discussion, John mentions a YouTube video - To hear this inspirational message, go to YouTube "To be Successful, You Must Jump". You can reach us at thehesitanthealer@gmail.com or 909-557-4415. Please like and subscribe to our podcast. We appreciate you all!  ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-011-all-about-tribe-featuring-cathie-and-stephanie/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/66b80b04-1a44-3218-a062-73b22fc14ce8Thu, 18 May 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>In this week's episode, The Hesitant Healer was off on a retreat in lovely Idyllwild California - a healers retreat. The healers who joined us are a part of a Healer's Circle that we have that meets twice a month at our office in Redlands, California. </p> A big thank you, again, to Ida, the owner of the Airbnb "the Mystery Lodge" in Idyllwild where we held our retreat.     Cathie shares a it what tribe means to her. Cathie is a wonderful Cranio-Sacral Therapist who has a practice in Redlands. To Contact Cathie, please call 909-658-5112.   Stephanie shares what a sense of tribe means to her. Stephanie is the owner of SS Neurofitness and a Physical Therapist who specializes in pediatrics. To contact Stephanie, reach out to her at <a href="mailto:stephanie@ssneurofitness.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">stephanie@ssneurofitness.com</a>.  In the discussion, John mentions a YouTube video - To hear this inspirational message, go to YouTube "To be Successful, You Must Jump". You can reach us at <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a> or 909-557-4415. Please like and subscribe to our podcast. We appreciate you all!  yes00:22:4811Ep 011: All about Tribe Featuring Cathie and Stephaniefull<![CDATA[Ep 013: Yoga is Healing with Chelsea Danea]]>On Today's episode, we talk to Chelsea Danea - a local yoga instructor. Chelsea tells of her journey to being a yoga instructor, what interested her in human anatomy as it relates to yoga, and all things yoga. 

Chelsea mentions a few anatomy instructors, Jules Mitchell and Gil Hedley. For more information on Jules, go to julesmitchell.com. For more information on Gil Hedley, go to gilhedley.com. Chelsea teaches at several places in Redlands, one of the studios is Vasa Yoga Studio. For more information about Vasa, go to vasaredlands.com. Finally you can contact Chelsea on Instagram at @chelseadanaeyoga or by email at chelseadanaeyoga@gmail.com or check out her website, chelseadanaeyoga.com.

 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-013-yoga-is-healing-with-chelsea-danea/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/10f687b4-795a-33b4-a3cb-41320f50b6e5Thu, 01 Jun 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>On Today's episode, we talk to Chelsea Danea - a local yoga instructor. Chelsea tells of her journey to being a yoga instructor, what interested her in human anatomy as it relates to yoga, and all things yoga. </p> Chelsea mentions a few anatomy instructors, Jules Mitchell and Gil Hedley. For more information on Jules, go to <a href="http://julesmitchell.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">julesmitchell.com</a>. For more information on Gil Hedley, go to <a href="http://gilhedley.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">gilhedley.com</a>. Chelsea teaches at several places in Redlands, one of the studios is Vasa Yoga Studio. For more information about Vasa, go to <a href="http://vasaredlands.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">vasaredlands.com</a>. Finally you can contact Chelsea on Instagram at @chelseadanaeyoga or by email at <a href="mailto:chelseadanaeyoga@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">chelseadanaeyoga@gmail.com</a> or check out her website, <a href="http://chelseadanaeyoga.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">chelseadanaeyoga.com</a>. <p> </p> yes00:46:3513Ep 013: Yoga is Healing with Chelsea Daneafull<![CDATA[Ep 002 [REVISITED]: Lisa Kay’s Story Or Why Should You Seek Alternative Healing Modalities]]>John Webster's sidekick and business partner, Lisa Kay talks about how she ended up back in Southern California, the surgical accident that at first left her hopeless, and then lead to her seeking alternative healing modalities. We hear a bit about emotions and physical healing and about the power of myofascial release.

 

email: thehesitanthealer@gmail.com Facebook: The Hesitant Healer ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-002-revisit/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/3cc56c2b-4eaa-3c9b-9726-fcd85c0d31daThu, 18 Jan 2024 09:00:00 GMT<p>John Webster's sidekick and business partner, Lisa Kay talks about how she ended up back in Southern California, the surgical accident that at first left her hopeless, and then lead to her seeking alternative healing modalities. We hear a bit about emotions and physical healing and about the power of myofascial release.</p> <p> </p> email: <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a> Facebook: The Hesitant Healer yes00:44:3343Ep 002 [REVISITED]: Lisa Kay’s Story Or Why Should You Seek Alternative Healing Modalitiesfull<![CDATA[Ep 014: John and Lisa Talk About Grief and Healing]]>thehesitanthealer@gmail.com.  Let us know if there are any topics you would like to hear about. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-014-john-and-lisa-talk-about-grief/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/9ae64dce-0766-3de6-af70-c42085d8a28bThu, 08 Jun 2023 08:00:00 GMTIn this episode, John and Lisa discuss healing from grief. This is a personal conversation- covering the wide range of emotions felt during a loss.  Give it a listen!  As a reminder, you can reach out to us through our Facebook group page - The Hesitant Healer, or on Instagram, the_hesitant_healer , or email us at <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a>.  Let us know if there are any topics you would like to hear about. yes00:48:3814Ep 014: John and Lisa Talk About Grief and Healingfull<![CDATA[Ep 029: Conversing with Expert Anatomist Julian Baker]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-029-conversing-with-expert-anatomist-julian-baker/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/d1a0159d-fc10-3d1a-8e04-5939e971d3c1Thu, 05 Oct 2023 08:00:00 GMTOn today's episode, John and Lisa have a lively conversation with Julian Baker, an expert anatomist.  Julian has been a chef, a Bowen practitioner, and an anatomy specialist. We speak of his journey and how he came to be enthralled with anatomy and its importance to body workers, yoga teachers, pilates instructors and all those who work with the body. Listen in and hear the "Iceman" story!  Julian is currently preparing for his scar tissue seminar which will be offered oive from October 10th through the 13th. Listen in and take advantage of the DISCOUNT he offers to The Hesitant Healer listeners. Enjoy this discussion with our friend Julian. yes00:47:4031Ep 029: Conversing with Expert Anatomist Julian Bakerfull<![CDATA[Ep 031: A Chat with Essential Oils Expert - Elicia Casey]]>On today's episode, John and Lisa speak with Elicia Casey, a health advocate and Essential oils expert. 

We talk about Elicia's journey toward health and her extensive knowledge of Essential Oils and how they improve health. Give it a listen! ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-031-a-chat-with-essential-oils-expert-elicia-casey/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e8f52ff4-666d-34b1-871b-dad3d981de0eThu, 19 Oct 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>On today's episode, John and Lisa speak with Elicia Casey, a health advocate and Essential oils expert. </p> We talk about Elicia's journey toward health and her extensive knowledge of Essential Oils and how they improve health. Give it a listen! yes00:45:3333Ep 031: A Chat with Essential Oils Expert - Elicia Caseyfull<![CDATA[Ep 030: Breast Health - A Talk with Jacquelyn Long]]>Today, John and Lisa speak to Jacquelyn Long a Medical Massage Therapist. 

We talk about the connection between the lymphatic system and breast health. We also discuss some of the important things that women can do to improve their breast health. Jacqulyn is a wealth of knowledge about the health of breasts, and it was a great pleasure to speak with her!  Jacqulyn can be reached at, jl_alttlewellness on Instagram or alittlewellness.com. Go to the website for more information on her upcoming class. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-030-breast-health-a-talk-with-jacquelyn-long/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/97f79f8c-7f1c-3120-8fca-c0b523910e02Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>Today, John and Lisa speak to Jacquelyn Long a Medical Massage Therapist. </p> We talk about the connection between the lymphatic system and breast health. We also discuss some of the important things that women can do to improve their breast health. Jacqulyn is a wealth of knowledge about the health of breasts, and it was a great pleasure to speak with her!  Jacqulyn can be reached at, jl_alttlewellness on Instagram or <a href="http://alittlewellness.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">alittlewellness.com</a>. Go to the website for more information on her upcoming class. yes00:47:4332Ep 030: Breast Health - A Talk with Jacquelyn Longfull<![CDATA[Ep 028: A Visit with Fran Phillips]]>In today's episode, John and Lisa speak with Fran Phillips a fitness instructor, personal trainer, pilates instructor, massage therapist and a therapist who now melds movement and therapy for her clients. 

Fran speaks about the dissection experiences she has had - more than 20 now. Fran is an anatomy enthusiast - she describes how she sees something new each time she participates in a dissection class. She speaks of the gratitude and reverence all participants feel towards those who donate the remains after they pass away. Fran was a part of the Fascia Plastination project in Guben Germany.  Fran says, the more you know and the more your hands know, the more you can help to heal your clients.  We hope you enjoy this discussion! ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-028-a-visit-with-fran-phillips/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/a3db901d-6646-3f61-9842-e10a085b7e07Thu, 28 Sep 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>In today's episode, John and Lisa speak with Fran Phillips a fitness instructor, personal trainer, pilates instructor, massage therapist and a therapist who now melds movement and therapy for her clients. </p> Fran speaks about the dissection experiences she has had - more than 20 now. Fran is an anatomy enthusiast - she describes how she sees something new each time she participates in a dissection class. She speaks of the gratitude and reverence all participants feel towards those who donate the remains after they pass away. Fran was a part of the Fascia Plastination project in Guben Germany.  Fran says, the more you know and the more your hands know, the more you can help to heal your clients.  We hope you enjoy this discussion! yes00:44:0230Ep 028: A Visit with Fran Phillipsfull<![CDATA[Ep 009 [REVISITED]: A Journey with Grief - Liz’s Story]]>On today's episode, Liz shares her intimate journey with grief. Liz is a client who has seen John at Redlands Massage Therapy for several years. She discusses her personal tragedy, the immediate effects, and the feelings and emotions in the weeks and months that followed. 

Liz talks about the understandings that she has come to in the last two years and some of the modalities she has sought during this time.  Liz mentions Michelle Pina during the podcast. Michelle is a Spiritual Conduit who seeks to guide those who have questions about those who have left this world. Michelle can be reached at the office of Redlands Massage Therapy, 909-557-4415,  for more information or to schedule an appointment.  In the beginning of the podcast, John and LisaKay give a shout out to Lisa Vest - owner of Vasa the Yoga Studio in Redlands, California. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-009-revisited/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/5c324646-efeb-374e-807a-b227dfc78c43Thu, 14 Dec 2023 09:00:00 GMT<p>On today's episode, Liz shares her intimate journey with grief. Liz is a client who has seen John at Redlands Massage Therapy for several years. She discusses her personal tragedy, the immediate effects, and the feelings and emotions in the weeks and months that followed. </p> Liz talks about the understandings that she has come to in the last two years and some of the modalities she has sought during this time.  Liz mentions Michelle Pina during the podcast. Michelle is a Spiritual Conduit who seeks to guide those who have questions about those who have left this world. Michelle can be reached at the office of Redlands Massage Therapy, 909-557-4415,  for more information or to schedule an appointment.  In the beginning of the podcast, John and LisaKay give a shout out to Lisa Vest - owner of Vasa the Yoga Studio in Redlands, California. yes00:54:3541Ep 009 [REVISITED]: A Journey with Grief - Liz’s Storyfull<![CDATA[Ep 020: What is An HSP And How Do I know if I Am One? With Erin Leon]]>In today's episode, we talk to Erin Leon, a former Audiologist, a Trauma Informed Yoga Teacher, Dancer, Artist and Life Coach. 

Erin introduces us to the term highly sensitive person or HSP, who they are and how she endeavors to help those who are HSP. Erin describes the two types of HSP.  Erin talks about the difference between therapy and life coaching, Therapy is often looking backwards to see where we came from and life coaching is looking forward and includes accountability.  Erin describes her own journey towards understanding herself, and coming to the realization that she too is a highly sensitive person - she relates the exploration of the mind/body connection. We also discuss the importance of incorporating movement into your life.  Erin Talks about Elaine Erin - the first person to coin the name HSP. you can check out her website at hsperson.com.  Erin Leon can be reached on Instagram or TicToc at emindmove or on her website emindmove.com . ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-020-what-is-an-hsp-and-how-do-i-know-if-i-am-one-with-erin-leon/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/b2e61906-6b3d-3f80-8772-7c91e783d39dThu, 27 Jul 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>In today's episode, we talk to Erin Leon, a former Audiologist, a Trauma Informed Yoga Teacher, Dancer, Artist and Life Coach. </p> Erin introduces us to the term highly sensitive person or HSP, who they are and how she endeavors to help those who are HSP. Erin describes the two types of HSP.  Erin talks about the difference between therapy and life coaching, Therapy is often looking backwards to see where we came from and life coaching is looking forward and includes accountability.  Erin describes her own journey towards understanding herself, and coming to the realization that she too is a highly sensitive person - she relates the exploration of the mind/body connection. We also discuss the importance of incorporating movement into your life.  Erin Talks about Elaine Erin - the first person to coin the name HSP. you can check out her website at <a href="http://hsperson.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">hsperson.com</a>.  Erin Leon can be reached on Instagram or TicToc at emindmove or on her website <a href="http://emindmove.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">emindmove.com</a> . yes00:51:3221Ep 020: What is An HSP And How Do I know if I Am One? With Erin Leonfull<![CDATA[Ep 041: A Chat with The Gut Diva]]>On Today's episode, we speak with Tara Lea - The Gut Diva. Tara is a licensed nurse who found herself very ill and suffering from superior mesenteric syndrome. Tara set out to make herself well again, seeking healing with acupuncture, essential oils, nutrition and detox supplements. Listen in as she guides us through her fascinating story. Tara can be reached at thegutdiva.com or on Instagram at the.gut.diva. 

 

 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-041-a-chat-with-the-gut-diva/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/36c5990b-52de-38d5-916f-2ea311bc8806Thu, 07 Mar 2024 09:00:00 GMT<p>On Today's episode, we speak with Tara Lea - The Gut Diva. Tara is a licensed nurse who found herself very ill and suffering from superior mesenteric syndrome. Tara set out to make herself well again, seeking healing with acupuncture, essential oils, nutrition and detox supplements. Listen in as she guides us through her fascinating story. Tara can be reached at <a href="http://thegutdiva.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thegutdiva.com</a> or on Instagram at the.gut.diva. </p>   <p> </p> yes00:49:1846Ep 041: A Chat with The Gut Divafull<![CDATA[Ep 040: A Conversation with Patricia Medros - Pilates Instructor]]>On Today's episode, we speak to Patricia Medros, a pilates instructor who learned from teachers trained by Joseph Pilates himself! Listen in as we discuss the finer points of Pilates, the difference between yoga and pilates and the journey that brought Patiricia to where she is today. 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-040-a-conversation-with-patricia-medros-pilates-instructor/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/5081120a-4097-3dda-afe4-f81991e30a19Thu, 29 Feb 2024 09:00:00 GMT<p>On Today's episode, we speak to Patricia Medros, a pilates instructor who learned from teachers trained by Joseph Pilates himself! Listen in as we discuss the finer points of Pilates, the difference between yoga and pilates and the journey that brought Patiricia to where she is today. </p> yes00:41:4545Ep 040: A Conversation with Patricia Medros - Pilates Instructorfull<![CDATA[Ep 016: We Talk with April Davis - The Vagina Blog Founder]]>On this Episode, we were privileged to speak with April Davis, Founder of the Vagina Blog. April is a Mom, an educator, and recently completed her BA in Psychology! She has a fascinating background in Emergency Medicine and photography. Her personal mission is to fix the  maternal death rate in the U.S.

We spoke about all sorts of things, the sad state of maternal care in the US, women's knowledge of their own bodies, and teenagers and maturation.   Listen for the awesome "swimming pool" analogy when speaking of raising adolescents!    In our conversation, April mentions a highly recommended book, Untangled: Guiding Teenage Girls through the Seven Transitions into Adulthood by Dr. Lisa Damour.    April can be reached through her Instagram Account, #thevaginablog.  ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-016-we-talk-with-april-davis-the-vagina-blog-founder/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/58d2d016-3fcc-386b-bc87-cfb710dbb183Thu, 22 Jun 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>On this Episode, we were privileged to speak with April Davis, Founder of the Vagina Blog. April is a Mom, an educator, and recently completed her BA in Psychology! She has a fascinating background in Emergency Medicine and photography. Her personal mission is to fix the  maternal death rate in the U.S.</p> We spoke about all sorts of things, the sad state of maternal care in the US, women's knowledge of their own bodies, and teenagers and maturation.   Listen for the awesome "swimming pool" analogy when speaking of raising adolescents!    In our conversation, April mentions a highly recommended book, Untangled: Guiding Teenage Girls through the Seven Transitions into Adulthood by Dr. Lisa Damour.    April can be reached through her Instagram Account, #thevaginablog.  yes00:37:5416Ep 016: We Talk with April Davis - The Vagina Blog Founderfull<![CDATA[Ep 024: A journey with Plant Medicine with Jessie De la Tejera]]>In this episode, We speak to Jessie De la Tejera, a mom, a yogi and a teacher about a life changing healing experience that she recently had. 

TRIGGER WARNING:please note that this episode contains depictions of sexual abuse that some people may find disturbing. This content may not be suitable for listeners under the age of 18. Listener discretion is advised.  Jessie describes to us her recent journey with plant medicine which she sought to help herself become well, body, mind and spirit. She went on a journey and experienced 5 separate ceremonies which all contained deeply healing elements.  This is a fascinating episode - join us as we hear about Jessie's journey to health. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-024-a-journey-with-plant-medicine-with-jessie-de-la-tejera/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/25ac3409-fb31-36d0-b348-d68a1e3e8613Thu, 31 Aug 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>In this episode, We speak to Jessie De la Tejera, a mom, a yogi and a teacher about a life changing healing experience that she recently had. </p> TRIGGER WARNING:please note that this episode contains depictions of sexual abuse that some people may find disturbing. This content may not be suitable for listeners under the age of 18. Listener discretion is advised.  Jessie describes to us her recent journey with plant medicine which she sought to help herself become well, body, mind and spirit. She went on a journey and experienced 5 separate ceremonies which all contained deeply healing elements.  This is a fascinating episode - join us as we hear about Jessie's journey to health. yes01:12:4826Ep 024: A journey with Plant Medicine with Jessie De la Tejerafull<![CDATA[Ep 051: One of the Best Decisions I Ever Made]]>On Today's episode, in honor of Memorial Day, John talks about his experiences joining the military. John describes it as one of the best decisions he's ever made. 

We encourage you to check out the information for our upcoming retreat in November to be held in Texas. Go to sbmftservices/VIP24 for more information. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-051-one-of-the-best-decisions-i-ever-made/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/d140f103-880b-362a-bac7-1c959778083dMon, 27 May 2024 22:59:43 GMT<p>On Today's episode, in honor of Memorial Day, John talks about his experiences joining the military. John describes it as one of the best decisions he's ever made. </p> We encourage you to check out the information for our upcoming retreat in November to be held in Texas. Go to sbmftservices/VIP24 for more information. yes00:56:0757Ep 051: One of the Best Decisions I Ever Madefull<![CDATA[Ep 024 [REVISITED]: A Journey With Plant Medicine with Jessie De la Tejera]]>In this episode, We speak to Jessie De la Tejera, a mom, a yogi and a teacher about a life changing healing experience that she recently had. 

TRIGGER WARNING:please note that this episode contains depictions of sexual abuse that some people may find disturbing. This content may not be suitable for listeners under the age of 18. Listener discretion is advised.  Jessie describes to us her recent journey with plant medicine which she sought to help herself become well, body, mind and spirit. She went on a journey and experienced 5 separate ceremonies which all contained deeply healing elements.  This is a fascinating episode - join us as we hear about Jessie's journey to health. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-024-revisited-a-journey-with-plant-medicine/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/40c34070-decd-37ab-97cd-d0aef7cb5df1Thu, 16 May 2024 17:56:49 GMT<p>In this episode, We speak to Jessie De la Tejera, a mom, a yogi and a teacher about a life changing healing experience that she recently had. </p> TRIGGER WARNING:please note that this episode contains depictions of sexual abuse that some people may find disturbing. This content may not be suitable for listeners under the age of 18. Listener discretion is advised.  Jessie describes to us her recent journey with plant medicine which she sought to help herself become well, body, mind and spirit. She went on a journey and experienced 5 separate ceremonies which all contained deeply healing elements.  This is a fascinating episode - join us as we hear about Jessie's journey to health. yes01:12:4856Ep 024 [REVISITED]: A Journey With Plant Medicine with Jessie De la Tejerafull<![CDATA[Ep 005: Anatomy - Love It Or Hate It?!]]> 

email: thehesitanthealer@gmail.com Facebook: The Hesitant Healer ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-005-anatomy-love-it-or-hate-it/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/2b061bbf-4049-3c72-8633-5f85a15c2757Thu, 06 Apr 2023 08:00:00 GMTJohn talks about his first encounter with anatomy class during massage school. It was a disaster! Hear how he learned to love anatomy and how attending a human dissection class opened his eyes to the world of anatomy and how it changed his medical massage practice.  <p> </p> email: <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a> Facebook: The Hesitant Healer yes00:45:295Ep 005: Anatomy - Love It Or Hate It?!full<![CDATA[Ep 019: Can Food Be Healing?]]>thehesitanthealer@gmail.com.  ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-019-can-food-be-healing/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/4c21df9f-50a1-31ff-9d87-6cc368239cbaThu, 13 Jul 2023 08:00:00 GMT In this episode, John and Lisa talk about food. What makes comfort food feel good to us? What are the dynamics of food and how do they heal us?  We welcome your suggestions, questions and feedback! Text, call, or whatsapp us at 1-909-557-4415. or contact us through Instagram or email us at <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a>.  yes00:53:3919Ep 019: Can Food Be Healing?full<![CDATA[Ep 053: OZEMPIC Journey]]>In this episode, John and Lisa talk about the diabetes and weight loss medication Ozempic. Listen to their personal experiences with the medication. We hope you enjoy listening. 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-053-ozempic-journey/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/d380fb3e-9038-3a74-baea-a0a4f31e6f43Sun, 23 Jun 2024 00:32:21 GMT<p>In this episode, John and Lisa talk about the diabetes and weight loss medication Ozempic. Listen to their personal experiences with the medication. We hope you enjoy listening. </p> yes00:55:2759Ep 053: OZEMPIC Journeyfull<![CDATA[Ep 038: Healing Your Relationship with Money]]>In today's episode, John and Lisa Kay discuss money. Sometimes, we have a complicated relationship with money, it can be emotional and deep seated. 

We mention the book " the Energy of Money " by Maria Nemeth. We also discuss 1 Timothy 6:10, The Holy Bible.  Give it a listen! ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-038-healing-your-relationship-with-money/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/facd9a4f-0c39-3adb-a90e-aa205c1f7fa6Fri, 08 Dec 2023 22:29:24 GMT<p>In today's episode, John and Lisa Kay discuss money. Sometimes, we have a complicated relationship with money, it can be emotional and deep seated. </p> We mention the book " the Energy of Money " by Maria Nemeth. We also discuss 1 Timothy 6:10, The Holy Bible.  Give it a listen! yes00:49:3540Ep 038: Healing Your Relationship with Moneyfull<![CDATA[Ep 033: Lisa Webster Shares Her Story of Healing]]>On today's episode, John and Lisa Kay speak with Lisa Webster, John's wife, all about her healing journey. 

More than 17 years ago, Lisa was diagnosed with  Recurrent Metastatic Melanoma, Stage 4. At first, the diagnosis was grim.  Listen as John and Lisa describe the journey through illness into health. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-033-lisa-webster-shares-her-story-of-healing/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/0ab52363-2ae3-3b00-b21e-caad20d290f9Thu, 02 Nov 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>On today's episode, John and Lisa Kay speak with Lisa Webster, John's wife, all about her healing journey. </p> More than 17 years ago, Lisa was diagnosed with  Recurrent Metastatic Melanoma, Stage 4. At first, the diagnosis was grim.  Listen as John and Lisa describe the journey through illness into health. yes01:07:1535Ep 033: Lisa Webster Shares Her Story of Healingfull<![CDATA[Ep 026: Body Image with Eden]]>In today’s episode John and Lisa talk with a client. We discuss body image, “rage running”, and finding your peace. 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-026-body-image-with-eden/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/b4119e3b-9329-34b1-974f-aa98a0f1a3c8Fri, 15 Sep 2023 05:03:21 GMT<p>In today’s episode John and Lisa talk with a client. We discuss body image, “rage running”, and finding your peace. </p> yes00:42:1428Ep 026: Body Image with Edenfull<![CDATA[Ep 025: The Wilderness Can Be Healing]]>In today's episode, John speaks about a retreat type experience he had as a teenager, and then his experience just a few days ago in the wilds of Canada. Finding that place where you can experience the great outdoors can heal your body and your mind. 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-025-the-wilderness-can-be-healing/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/c2c8bdce-f7a8-3d23-9e0f-0d2fc9c30584Thu, 07 Sep 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>In today's episode, John speaks about a retreat type experience he had as a teenager, and then his experience just a few days ago in the wilds of Canada. Finding that place where you can experience the great outdoors can heal your body and your mind. </p> yes00:42:0127Ep 025: The Wilderness Can Be Healingfull<![CDATA[Ep 036: Here Come the Holidays!]]>Today, John and Lisa Kay talk about the Holidays. Often there is an expectation and a Reality and they don't meet up. Listen in for some encouragement, some funny stories, and some little suggestions. We appreciate you all! Happy holiday season! 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-036-here-come-the-holidays/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/8c8028da-aae4-394f-a271-4c7eae9937a3Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:00:00 GMT<p>Today, John and Lisa Kay talk about the Holidays. Often there is an expectation and a Reality and they don't meet up. Listen in for some encouragement, some funny stories, and some little suggestions. We appreciate you all! Happy holiday season! </p> yes00:41:3838Ep 036: Here Come the Holidays!full<![CDATA[Ep 035: Sometimes Doing the Right Thing is Healing]]>On today's episode, listen in for a fascinating story from John's life. Intrigue, a found precious piece of jewlery, accusations, choices and the morality of doing the right thing. It is a really good story, we hope you enjoy it. 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-034-sometimes-doing-the-right-thing-is-healing/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/90f5dbe2-df08-3524-b397-8741f2894632Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:00:00 GMT<p>On today's episode, listen in for a fascinating story from John's life. Intrigue, a found precious piece of jewlery, accusations, choices and the morality of doing the right thing. It is a really good story, we hope you enjoy it. </p> yes00:42:2237Ep 035: Sometimes Doing the Right Thing is Healingfull<![CDATA[Ep 052: Coach Mo Faul]]>On todays' episode, John and Lisa Kay speak with Coach Mo Faul, Who describes herself as a Soul Powered Career Coach. Coach Mo describes her journey through the corporate world, a serious illness and then to an understanding of who she is and where her soul lies. Coach Mo works with women in their 30's to 50's who have come to a point in their work lives where they are questioning who they are and what they do. So far, she has over 2,100 successful clients. Her life story and her mission are inspiring! We hope you enjoy listening! 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-052-coach-mo-faul/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/6bd328c7-1577-3af2-83e4-d8a7fe2ce448Thu, 06 Jun 2024 07:18:28 GMT<p>On todays' episode, John and Lisa Kay speak with Coach Mo Faul, Who describes herself as a Soul Powered Career Coach. Coach Mo describes her journey through the corporate world, a serious illness and then to an understanding of who she is and where her soul lies. Coach Mo works with women in their 30's to 50's who have come to a point in their work lives where they are questioning who they are and what they do. So far, she has over 2,100 successful clients. Her life story and her mission are inspiring! We hope you enjoy listening! </p> yes00:52:4258Ep 052: Coach Mo Faulfull<![CDATA[Ep 042: John and Lisa Kay Chat with Medical Massage Therapist Alanna Augstein]]>Today, John and Lisa Kay have a great conversation with Alanna Augstin, a medical massage therapist. Alanna tells about her journey to being a therapist - she went to massage school in Canada! - her experiences here in California and what excites her most about being a massage therapist. Alanna speaks of Kore Rehab and the Foundation gym in Yucaipa. Alanna can be found on Instagram at alannaaugstin.rmt . We hope you enjoy the show! 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-042-john-and-lisa-kay-chat-with-medical-massage-therapist-alanna-augstein/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e2f17f9c-c65b-3954-889a-b09ad2dceb26Thu, 14 Mar 2024 08:00:00 GMT<p>Today, John and Lisa Kay have a great conversation with Alanna Augstin, a medical massage therapist. Alanna tells about her journey to being a therapist - she went to massage school in Canada! - her experiences here in California and what excites her most about being a massage therapist. Alanna speaks of Kore Rehab and the Foundation gym in Yucaipa. Alanna can be found on Instagram at alannaaugstin.rmt . We hope you enjoy the show! </p> yes00:46:5547Ep 042: John and Lisa Kay Chat with Medical Massage Therapist Alanna Augsteinfull<![CDATA[Ep 039: A Plant Medicine Experience]]>Hello! Welcome back! On today's episode, John and Lisa Kay talk about a recent experience they had with a plant medicine ceremony. Listen in as John describes his experience with psilocybin. 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-039-a-plant-medicine-experience/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/bcc73854-6a2d-34f1-ae7a-3e8a926c0d3eThu, 22 Feb 2024 09:00:00 GMT<p>Hello! Welcome back! On today's episode, John and Lisa Kay talk about a recent experience they had with a plant medicine ceremony. Listen in as John describes his experience with psilocybin. </p> yes00:49:3344Ep 039: A Plant Medicine Experiencefull<![CDATA[Ep 004: Different Healing Modalities]]> 

email: thehesitanthealer@gmail.com Facebook: The Hesitant Healer ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-004-different-healing-modalities/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/1e92d474-ad11-3031-a730-c951669e3ef6Thu, 30 Mar 2023 08:00:00 GMTIn this episode, John discusses many different healing modalities he has either studied, or participated in. Hear discussion of Reiki, Healing Touch, CranioSacral therapy, Visceral Manipulation, EMDR, Myofascial Realease, talk therapy and a mention of Psychedelics as treatment.   <p> </p> email: <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a> Facebook: The Hesitant Healer yes00:43:564Ep 004: Different Healing Modalitiesfull<![CDATA[Ep 017: The Power of Forgiveness]]>thehesitanthealer@gmail.com, or text, call or What's App at 1(909) 557-4415. We welcome your thoughts, any ideas you may have for future shows, or any questions you may have for us. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-017-the-power-of-forgiveness/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/ed84f11b-25f5-3d42-9c7b-86ae457257a8Thu, 29 Jun 2023 08:00:00 GMTWhat does Forgiveness look like? What happens if I don't forgive? Is it a simple thing?  This is a rich topic and we just hit some beginning points for you to think about. It is a great place to start though.    In our discussion ,we mention a few movies - Schindler's List, 1993, directed and produced by Steven Spielberg and Red Dawn, 1984, Directed by John Milius.  John shares a passage from "Sermon on the Mount, by  Dr. Emmett Fox  and mentions Scott Redman, author of "Real Men Don't Eat Quiche."    As always, we would love to hear from you - reach out to us on Instagram at the Hesitant Healer, or email us at <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a>, or text, call or What's App at 1(909) 557-4415. We welcome your thoughts, any ideas you may have for future shows, or any questions you may have for us. yes00:49:0917Ep 017: The Power of Forgivenessfull<![CDATA[Ep 001 [REVISITED]: The Beginning - How Did I Get Here?]]>thehesitanthealer@gmail.com Facebook: The Hesitant Healer  ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-001-revisited-the-beginning-how-did-i-get-here/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/cc43332b-6bed-3ec0-946a-d59be0bc7eddFri, 12 Jan 2024 09:00:00 GMTJohn Webster, The Hesitant Healer talks about the life experiences he has had that lead him to being the healer he is today.  He speaks about sobriety, his time as a chef, working in a jail and then for the San Bernardino Sheriff Department.  John tells us about his decision to go to Massage School, and then some of the classes he sought after completing Massage school.  It's been a wild journey and John introduces his experiences to us.   email: <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a> Facebook: The Hesitant Healer  yes00:14:1442Ep 001 [REVISITED]: The Beginning - How Did I Get Here?full<![CDATA[Ep 003: Lisa Webster’s Cancer Journey]]> 

email: thehesitanthealer@gmail.com Facebook: The Hesitant Healer ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-003-lisa-webster-s-cancer-journey/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/032725ce-6f8b-317d-b533-52c389c1ccd7Thu, 23 Mar 2023 18:28:33 GMTJohn shares about his wife Lisa (his wife Lisa, not his business partner Lisa Kay). He talks about Lisa's cancer diagnosis, the alternative healing modalities they sought out and the lessons he learned as a healer through this journey.  <p> </p> email: <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a> Facebook: The Hesitant Healer yes00:39:313Ep 003: Lisa Webster’s Cancer Journeyfull<![CDATA[Ep 012: The Healing Power of Art with Matt Webster]]>This week we talk to the very talented Matt Webster. Matt is a former tenured professor of Theatre, with a specialization in Theatre Education. He is the author of the book Methods of Teaching Theatre: A Teacher Toolkit. He is also an actor, director and published playwright who has taught theatre to children and adults for more than 30 years.

Matt joins us as we talk about the healing power of art. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-012-the-healing-power-of-art/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/f27f0ba7-74fa-38c7-8063-19d1771351ceThu, 25 May 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>This week we talk to the very talented Matt Webster. Matt is a former tenured professor of Theatre, with a specialization in Theatre Education. He is the author of the book Methods of Teaching Theatre: A Teacher Toolkit. He is also an actor, director and published playwright who has taught theatre to children and adults for more than 30 years.</p> Matt joins us as we talk about the healing power of art. yes00:43:2812Ep 012: The Healing Power of Art with Matt Websterfull<![CDATA[Ep 021: The Healing Power of Finding Your Voice]]>In Episode #21 John and Lisa talk about the power of finding your voice. During this episode, John mentions Al-Anon, an organization that describes itself as a group that provides help and hope for families and friends of alcoholics. It is a sister organization to Alcoholics Anonymous. 

John mentions in a story Loma Linda Hospital, a large Adventist hospital located in Loma Linda California. He also talks about the Ronald McDonald House that is located near Loma Linda Hospital.  John relays that at an Al-Anon meeting he met a lovely woman who taught him Reiki. Reiki is a healing technique based on the principle that the therapist can channel energy into the patient by means of touch, to activate the natural healing process of the patient's body and estore physical and emotional well-being. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-021-the-healing-power-of-finding-your-voice/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/cdc714c1-6cf5-3b7d-ad60-fe3f0de8ad6dThu, 03 Aug 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>In Episode #21 John and Lisa talk about the power of finding your voice. During this episode, John mentions Al-Anon, an organization that describes itself as a group that provides help and hope for families and friends of alcoholics. It is a sister organization to Alcoholics Anonymous. </p> John mentions in a story Loma Linda Hospital, a large Adventist hospital located in Loma Linda California. He also talks about the Ronald McDonald House that is located near Loma Linda Hospital.  John relays that at an Al-Anon meeting he met a lovely woman who taught him Reiki. Reiki is a healing technique based on the principle that the therapist can channel energy into the patient by means of touch, to activate the natural healing process of the patient's body and estore physical and emotional well-being. yes00:49:0722Ep 021: The Healing Power of Finding Your Voicefull<![CDATA[Ep 002 [REVISITED]: Lisa Kay’s Story Or Why Should You Seek Alternative Healing Modalities]]>John Webster's sidekick and business partner, Lisa Kay talks about how she ended up back in Southern California, the surgical accident that at first left her hopeless, and then lead to her seeking alternative healing modalities. We hear a bit about emotions and physical healing and about the power of myofascial release.

 

email: thehesitanthealer@gmail.com Facebook: The Hesitant Healer ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-02-revisited/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/f931d0e8-0a1c-34ec-b1e5-40e2ed167273Thu, 20 Jul 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>John Webster's sidekick and business partner, Lisa Kay talks about how she ended up back in Southern California, the surgical accident that at first left her hopeless, and then lead to her seeking alternative healing modalities. We hear a bit about emotions and physical healing and about the power of myofascial release.</p> <p> </p> email: <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a> Facebook: The Hesitant Healer yes00:46:2020Ep 002 [REVISITED]: Lisa Kay’s Story Or Why Should You Seek Alternative Healing Modalitiesfull<![CDATA[Ep 034: Remember When Someone Would Read You a Bedtime Story]]>Remember when someone would read you a bedtime story? That cozy, warm, protected and loved feeling? Sit back and relax as John and Lisa Kay read a special story,

" The Velveteen Rabbit" to you.   

 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-034-remember-when-someone-would-read-you-a-bedtime-story/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/ab5329c7-f77c-30c5-ba1d-c19ad0c5486eThu, 09 Nov 2023 09:00:00 GMT<p>Remember when someone would read you a bedtime story? That cozy, warm, protected and loved feeling? Sit back and relax as John and Lisa Kay read a special story,</p> " The Velveteen Rabbit" to you.    <p> </p> yes00:36:2536Ep 034: Remember When Someone Would Read You a Bedtime Storyfull<![CDATA[Ep 022: Hug a Teacher - Teachers Are Healers with Matt Webster]]> 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-022-hug-a-teacher-teachers-are-healers-with-matt-webster/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/f3c870b2-0545-3fca-bb26-d3a5c1329300Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:00:00 GMTWho was YOUR favorite teacher? Do you remember how they made you feel? How did they make your life better?  Today, John and Lisa Kay talk to Matt Webster - a teacher to teachers and an exceptional human being.  We all mentioned our favorite teachers, John mentioned Ms. Kimmie and Bill Chappel from Beaumont High school and Bob Baldwin at Valley College. LisaKay mentioned Mrs. Groose and Mr Deutcher from El Dorado High School. Matt told us about going to the great Pacific Northwest recently to see his favorite teacher, Dr. Amanda Sue Rudisill, a professor from Cal State San Bernardino.  Good teachers have a passion for what they do and the ability to recognize something in their students that perhaps the student doesn't even see.  Teachers ground us, they can be an anchor or a lifeline. The best teachers are part of our health because they have poured into our lives.  Do something bold today - look up one of your favorite teachers and drop them a note, a letter, an Instant Message - anything and just say thanks- because not only is learning healthy, so is gratitude.  <p> </p> yes00:53:3223Ep 022: Hug a Teacher - Teachers Are Healers with Matt Websterfull<![CDATA[Ep 018: You Are What You Eat - Nutrition and Health with Killion Webster]]>Episode #18 has a special guest - someone who is related to John! We speak with Killion Webster - John's niece - about Nutrition and how it affects everything! We talk about Gluten, Celiac disease, Crohn's, one's relationship with food and the psychology of food and culture. 

During our discussion, Killion mentions My Plate. My Plate is the current nutrition guide published by the USDA and serves as a recommendation based on the dietary guidelines for Americans. It can be found at myplate.gov.  Killion Webster can be reached at killion.webster@gmail.com.  Reach out to us at thehesitanthealer@gmail.com or on Instagram at The Hesitant Healer. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-018-you-are-what-you-eat-nutrition-and-health-with-killion-webster/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/a4c20fa0-3c3b-375b-a6ef-ced1c530f5a5Thu, 06 Jul 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>Episode #18 has a special guest - someone who is related to John! We speak with Killion Webster - John's niece - about Nutrition and how it affects everything! We talk about Gluten, Celiac disease, Crohn's, one's relationship with food and the psychology of food and culture. </p> During our discussion, Killion mentions My Plate. My Plate is the current nutrition guide published by the USDA and serves as a recommendation based on the dietary guidelines for Americans. It can be found at <a href="http://myplate.gov/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">myplate.gov</a>.  Killion Webster can be reached at <a href="mailto:killion.webster@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">killion.webster@gmail.com</a>.  Reach out to us at <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a> or on Instagram at The Hesitant Healer. yes00:47:3918Ep 018: You Are What You Eat - Nutrition and Health with Killion Websterfull<![CDATA[Ep 010: Michelle’s Story]]>integrativeintensions.com.  John Mentions Tyler Henry and his Netflix special "Life After Death". Finally, a big shout out to Sugar Baby Cookie Mama - they are amazing - you can reach the owner Caitlyn on Instagram at Sugarbabycooliemama.  If you are interested in booking a session with Michelle, you can contact Lisa at 909-557-4415, and she will arrange a time for you.    ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-010-michelle-s-story/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/9c659f97-e248-3910-9167-35af99445134Thu, 11 May 2023 08:00:00 GMTIn this episode, we talk to Michelle, who is a client of John's and a member of the Healers Circle that meets twice a month at our shop.  Michelle calls herself a spiritual conduit - she is able to sense messages and relay them to people. In last week's episode on grief, Liz talked about meeting with Michelle and how that helped in her journey.    This episode was taped while our "tribe" was up on retreat in Idyllwild California. If you would like a relaxing time in a BEAUTIFUL Airbnb, check out "the Mystery Lodge" in Idyllwild. A special thank you to Ida, the owner - it was a great experience!  John mentions his "doppleganger", Debrah Mattson, a very gifted therapist located in Santa Cruz, California. Debrah can be reached at 831-420-1000. Call in advance for an appointment.  John also mentions Integrative Intentions, located in Truth or Consequences, New Mexico. For more information, go to <a href="http://integrativeintensions.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">integrativeintensions.com</a>.  John Mentions Tyler Henry and his Netflix special "Life After Death". Finally, a big shout out to Sugar Baby Cookie Mama - they are amazing - you can reach the owner Caitlyn on Instagram at Sugarbabycooliemama.  If you are interested in booking a session with Michelle, you can contact Lisa at 909-557-4415, and she will arrange a time for you.    yes00:46:3010Ep 010: Michelle’s Storyfull<![CDATA[Ep 050: There’s Always Hope- A Discussion About Mental Health]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/there-s-always-hope-a-discussion-about-mental-health/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/bd3bd657-3016-367d-940c-936760f9b3b7Thu, 09 May 2024 08:00:00 GMTIn today’s episode, John and Lisa Kay talk about mental health and the stigma against seeking mental health treatment.  We hope you will enjoy this episode! yes00:50:1455Ep 050: There’s Always Hope- A Discussion About Mental Healthfull<![CDATA[Ep 008: Special Guest Rachelle Clauson, The World of Anatomy Education]]>gilhedley.com) She also speaks of Carla Stecco (www.si-directory.com/italy/padua/fascia-research-pioneer/dr-carla-stecco) And Julian Baker (functionalanatomy.com).  In addition to being a gifted massage therapist, Rachelle and her business partner, Nicole Trombley, have a business called Anatomy Scapes which conducts in person dissections as well as offers a monthly subscription for unique on-line anatomy experiences.  Rachelle, like John has studies with the Upledger Institute (upledger.com). Rachelle explains how and why greater anatomy knowledge is important to massage therapists.  Rachelle graciously offers a special coupon to The Hesitant Healers listeners during the podcast.  Rachelle can be reached at rachelle@anatomyscapes.com as well as on Facebook and Instagram.  This is a lively listen! ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-008-special-guest-rachelle-clauson-the-world-of-anatomy-education/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/13c589f5-1161-37a6-bee6-121c6746aef7Thu, 27 Apr 2023 08:00:00 GMTRachelle is a gifted massage Therapist and anatomy lover! She has been involved in many worldwide anatomy projects.  In this episode, Rachelle tells us how she got interested in becoming a massage therapist, and how she realized her enthusiasm for anatomy.  Rachelle mentions her first dissection class with Gil Hedly (<a href="http://gilhedley.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">gilhedley.com</a>) She also speaks of Carla Stecco (<a href="http://www.si-directory.com/italy/padua/fascia-research-pioneer/dr-carla-stecco" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">www.si-directory.com/italy/padua/fascia-research-pioneer/dr-carla-stecco</a>) And Julian Baker (<a href="http://functionalanatomy.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">functionalanatomy.com</a>).  In addition to being a gifted massage therapist, Rachelle and her business partner, Nicole Trombley, have a business called Anatomy Scapes which conducts in person dissections as well as offers a monthly subscription for unique on-line anatomy experiences.  Rachelle, like John has studies with the Upledger Institute (<a href="http://upledger.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">upledger.com</a>). Rachelle explains how and why greater anatomy knowledge is important to massage therapists.  Rachelle graciously offers a special coupon to The Hesitant Healers listeners during the podcast.  Rachelle can be reached at <a href="mailto:rachelle@anatomyscapes.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">rachelle@anatomyscapes.com</a> as well as on Facebook and Instagram.  This is a lively listen! yes00:47:518Ep 008: Special Guest Rachelle Clauson, The World of Anatomy Educationfull<![CDATA[Ep 007: John ’s Journey Through Addiction]]>www.aa.org.  ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-007-john-s-journey-through-addiction/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e5afd48a-1573-3cec-87f3-69c58b975d74Thu, 20 Apr 2023 08:00:00 GMTIn today's episode, John talks about his journey through addiction. He describes how alcohol became addictive to him, through his years in the Army and  his early years as a chef. John talks about the many  relationships his drinking had an effect on and then several miracles that occurred to spur him on to sobriety.  In this episode, John references a book that the comedian Nikki Glasser has talked about several times, "Quit Drinking Without Willpower" by Alan Carr.  John also mentions two classic movies, Grosse Pointe Blank, 1997 Directed by George Armitage and Forrest Gump, 1994 Directed by Eric Roth.  John makes reference several times to "Alcoholics Anonymous - The Big Book'',  which is the basic text of Alcoholics Anonymous.  For more information on local Alcoholics Anonymous meetings, go to <a href="http://www.aa.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">www.aa.org</a>.  yes00:49:537Ep 007: John ’s Journey Through Addictionfull<![CDATA[Ep 006: More Anatomy Talk]]>John finishes up talking about the many great anatomy teachers he has encountered as he pursues his quest for anatomical knowledge. 

You can check out the fabulous information that Julian Baker has to offer at functionalanatomy.com

email: thehesitanthealer@gmail.com Facebook: The Hesitant Healer ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-006-more-anatomy-talk/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/a5e6a3e0-c2ff-34b4-9c16-3e8ef15ce05bThu, 13 Apr 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>John finishes up talking about the many great anatomy teachers he has encountered as he pursues his quest for anatomical knowledge. </p> <p>You can check out the fabulous information that Julian Baker has to offer at functionalanatomy.com</p> email: <a href="mailto:thehesitanthealer@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">thehesitanthealer@gmail.com</a> Facebook: The Hesitant Healer yes00:40:116Ep 006: More Anatomy Talkfull<![CDATA[Ep 023: When Leaving is The Healthy Thing To Do]]>In this episode, John and Lisa Kay talk about when relationships go bad, so bad that one partner has to leave the relationship. 

Lisa Kay mentions the term "equally yoked" which comes from The Bible, 2 Corithians 6:14. Which gives us a powerful visual about two forces trying to move together in one direction.  John mentions two well known and profound books, "Getting Love Right" by Terrence Gorski and "People of the Lie" by M. Scott Peck.  We discuss "Gaslighting" and what it means in a relationship, and what living with a narcist looks like.  John also mentions the book, "The energy of Money" by Maria Nemeth. Lisa Kay talks about the book "You are a Badass at Making Money" by Jen Sincero.  All relationships go through ups and downs, and a down does not necessarily mean you should leave, but we invite you to listen to some of our thoughts on unhealthy relationships. 

 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-023-when-leaving-is-the-healthy-thing-to-do/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/dd1766d3-58d2-30d1-b1fa-a9002706d91aThu, 17 Aug 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>In this episode, John and Lisa Kay talk about when relationships go bad, so bad that one partner has to leave the relationship. </p> Lisa Kay mentions the term "equally yoked" which comes from The Bible, 2 Corithians 6:14. Which gives us a powerful visual about two forces trying to move together in one direction.  John mentions two well known and profound books, "Getting Love Right" by Terrence Gorski and "People of the Lie" by M. Scott Peck.  We discuss "Gaslighting" and what it means in a relationship, and what living with a narcist looks like.  John also mentions the book, "The energy of Money" by Maria Nemeth. Lisa Kay talks about the book "You are a Badass at Making Money" by Jen Sincero.  All relationships go through ups and downs, and a down does not necessarily mean you should leave, but we invite you to listen to some of our thoughts on unhealthy relationships.  <p> </p> yes00:52:1124Ep 023: When Leaving is The Healthy Thing To Dofull<![CDATA[Ep 015: The Benefits of Manual Lymph Drainage with Amanda Alcazar]]>In today's episode, we talk with Amanda Alcazar, a medical massage therapist and lymph drainage specialist. John and Mandy were classmates at Massage School! She explains the different types of manual lymph massage and its benefits to your whole body. Check out Mandy's instagram page @ladyalcazar. This is a fascinating and very informative podcast episode. 

]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-015-the-benefits-of-manual-lymph-drainage/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/69f6cb80-232d-36a2-9210-e840d57570f1Thu, 15 Jun 2023 07:01:00 GMT<p>In today's episode, we talk with Amanda Alcazar, a medical massage therapist and lymph drainage specialist. John and Mandy were classmates at Massage School! She explains the different types of manual lymph massage and its benefits to your whole body. Check out Mandy's instagram page @ladyalcazar. This is a fascinating and very informative podcast episode. </p> yes00:34:4615Ep 015: The Benefits of Manual Lymph Drainage with Amanda Alcazarfull<![CDATA[Ep 027: A Conversation with Sue Hitzmann]]>In today's episode, John and Lisa speak to the amazing Sue Hitzmann, author of "The MELT Method" and "MELT Performance". 

Sue walks us through her journey as she began her practice, saw a need for clients to help themselves outside of her office, and  wrote a bestselling book. During this time, Sue met and married a wonderful man and they married. Tragically, her husband died from an unintentional drug overdose.  Sue describes her grief and grieving process. She talks about addiction, and the silence and shame surrounding it.  This is an open, honest and very real conversation, and we hope that you glean some very good information from it.  Sue mentions Gil Hedley, Julian Baker and Thomas Finnley, all great teachers in the study of fascia.  You can follow Sue on Facebook, Sue Hitzmann or MELT Method, or Sue_Hitzmann_themelter on Instagram. ]]>https://thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/e/ep-027-a-conversation-with-sue-hitzmann/thehesitanthealer.podbean.com/003e9e37-65d5-3efc-9cd9-5a34d5ec2dbdThu, 21 Sep 2023 08:00:00 GMT<p>In today's episode, John and Lisa speak to the amazing Sue Hitzmann, author of "The MELT Method" and "MELT Performance". </p> Sue walks us through her journey as she began her practice, saw a need for clients to help themselves outside of her office, and  wrote a bestselling book. During this time, Sue met and married a wonderful man and they married. Tragically, her husband died from an unintentional drug overdose.  Sue describes her grief and grieving process. She talks about addiction, and the silence and shame surrounding it.  This is an open, honest and very real conversation, and we hope that you glean some very good information from it.  Sue mentions Gil Hedley, Julian Baker and Thomas Finnley, all great teachers in the study of fascia.  You can follow Sue on Facebook, Sue Hitzmann or MELT Method, or Sue_Hitzmann_themelter on Instagram. yes00:49:1229Ep 027: A Conversation with Sue Hitzmannfull