<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[The Operator's Playbook]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Honest conversations with the people who actually run service businesses.<br /><br />The Operator's Playbook is a show about the real work of growing a service business: the operational stuff most people skip over. Getting found, following up, hiring, keeping clients happy, and where systems and AI genuinely help you book more work (and where they're just hype).<br /><br />Hosted by Bianca, founder of WeFlow. We build AI-powered systems for service businesses that would rather book more work than learn another tool.</p>]]></description><link>www.weflowpro.com</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2026 04:49:29 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/D7z3A0GQ.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Bianca Basilio]]></author><pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2025 14:53:39 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2025 Bianca Basilio]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Business]]></category><category><![CDATA[Technology]]></category><itunes:author>Bianca Basilio</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Honest conversations with the people who actually run service businesses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Operator&apos;s Playbook is a show about the real work of growing a service business: the operational stuff most people skip over. Getting found, following up, hiring, keeping clients happy, and where systems and AI genuinely help you book more work (and where they&apos;re just hype).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hosted by Bianca, founder of WeFlow. We build AI-powered systems for service businesses that would rather book more work than learn another tool.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Bianca Basilio</itunes:name><itunes:email>biancs@aiapexautomations.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Business"/><itunes:category text="Technology"/><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/logos/eec173c1-b9cb-4526-ac44-19abc1c74f49.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[Why More Software Isn't Solving Accounting's Biggest Problems | Trent McLaren]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><b>What if adding more software is actually making accounting firms less efficient?</b></p><p></p><p>Trent McLaren has spent 13 years in accounting technology and is the founder of Journey, and co-founder of Vinyl, an AI meeting intelligence platform built for accountants, and The Firm.</p><p></p><p>In this conversation, we unpack why more than 1,000 apps haven't made firms simpler, why highly skilled accountants often spend time on low-value work, and why the biggest operational bottlenecks usually have more to do with people and process than technology itself.</p><p></p><p><b>In this episode:</b></p><ul><li>Why outsiders underestimate how complex accounting really is</li><li>1,000+ apps and counting: how choice became its own problem</li><li>Why getting the right work to the right people changes everything</li><li>Why the real bottleneck is process and people, not tech</li><li>What the best firms do differently, whatever their size</li><li>Why the best operators never run at 100% capacity</li><li></li></ul><p><b>Connect with Trent:</b><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/trentmclaren/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/trentmclaren/</a><br />Vinyl: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://usevinyl.com" target="_blank">https://usevinyl.com</a><br />The Firm: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://thefirm.media" target="_blank">https://thefirm.media</a></p><p></p><p><b>Chapters</b> <br />03:35 Who Trent is: Journey, Vinyl &amp; The Firm<br />06:10 Why accounting is more complex than outsiders think<br />11:04 What's changed in firms, and what hasn't<br />15:06 Overwhelmed by choice: 1,000+ apps<br />16:51 Where firms actually break down<br />19:27 What the best firms do differently<br />25:48 Vinyl: turning meetings into action<br />30:15 The friction that quietly drains firms<br />33:18 Why process and people matter more than technology<br />34:40 What firms should be doing now<br />36:36 Where to find Trent</p><p></p><p><b>The Ledger</b> is the accounting series of <b>The Operator's Playbook</b>, hosted by Bianca, founder of WeFlow. Honest conversations with the people building, leading, and modernising accounting firms.</p><p></p><p>At WeFlow, we help service businesses remove operational bottlenecks with practical AI systems and automation. </p><p></p><p>If you'd like to see where time is disappearing inside your business, visit <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://weflowpro.com" target="_blank"><b>weflowpro.com</b></a> or connect with Bianca on Instagram <b>@weflowpro</b>.</p><p></p><p>New episodes every week. Subscribe so you don't miss the next conversation.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">248b66c3-7f5d-47ed-b33b-83ee57ca25a1</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bianca Basilio]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 23:30:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/8e083573092f17c29afa80cdc331d367503cf7e97061dc6329085aca8a058572/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIyNDhiNjZjMy03ZjVkLTQ3ZWQtYjMzYi04M2VlNTdjYTI1YTEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMmI0NDAyMC03MjJmLTRjMGUtOTAxNS1lMzllMTc2ZmFmZDciLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGVmNDI1YTc4NzkyMzAyNGY5ZGM4MmQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE0M2FiZDQ3ZWJmYjNkZWFmMjY4MDI5L2JpYW5jYS1iYXNpbGlvLWRlLXNhLWJhcnJldG9zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTYtMzBfXzEzLTQzLTE2Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="66068628" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/episodes/248b66c3-7f5d-47ed-b33b-83ee57ca25a1/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;What if adding more software is actually making accounting firms less efficient?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Trent McLaren has spent 13 years in accounting technology and is the founder of Journey, and co-founder of Vinyl, an AI meeting intelligence platform built for accountants, and The Firm.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this conversation, we unpack why more than 1,000 apps haven&apos;t made firms simpler, why highly skilled accountants often spend time on low-value work, and why the biggest operational bottlenecks usually have more to do with people and process than technology itself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;In this episode:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why outsiders underestimate how complex accounting really is&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;1,000+ apps and counting: how choice became its own problem&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why getting the right work to the right people changes everything&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why the real bottleneck is process and people, not tech&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What the best firms do differently, whatever their size&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why the best operators never run at 100% capacity&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Connect with Trent:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/trentmclaren/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/trentmclaren/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Vinyl: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://usevinyl.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://usevinyl.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Firm: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://thefirm.media&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://thefirm.media&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chapters&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br /&gt;03:35 Who Trent is: Journey, Vinyl &amp;amp; The Firm&lt;br /&gt;06:10 Why accounting is more complex than outsiders think&lt;br /&gt;11:04 What&apos;s changed in firms, and what hasn&apos;t&lt;br /&gt;15:06 Overwhelmed by choice: 1,000+ apps&lt;br /&gt;16:51 Where firms actually break down&lt;br /&gt;19:27 What the best firms do differently&lt;br /&gt;25:48 Vinyl: turning meetings into action&lt;br /&gt;30:15 The friction that quietly drains firms&lt;br /&gt;33:18 Why process and people matter more than technology&lt;br /&gt;34:40 What firms should be doing now&lt;br /&gt;36:36 Where to find Trent&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Ledger&lt;/b&gt; is the accounting series of &lt;b&gt;The Operator&apos;s Playbook&lt;/b&gt;, hosted by Bianca, founder of WeFlow. Honest conversations with the people building, leading, and modernising accounting firms.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At WeFlow, we help service businesses remove operational bottlenecks with practical AI systems and automation. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you&apos;d like to see where time is disappearing inside your business, visit &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://weflowpro.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;weflowpro.com&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; or connect with Bianca on Instagram &lt;b&gt;@weflowpro&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;New episodes every week. Subscribe so you don&apos;t miss the next conversation.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:34:25</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/logos/eec173c1-b9cb-4526-ac44-19abc1c74f49.png"/><itunes:title>Why More Software Isn&apos;t Solving Accounting&apos;s Biggest Problems | Trent McLaren</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[What a Liquidator Wishes Every Business Owner Knew | Liam Bailey]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Most business owners call a liquidator far too late. Liam Bailey wants to change that.</p><p></p><p>Liam is the managing partner of O'Brien Palmer and a registered liquidator, and he spends his days helping businesses either turn around or wind down. In this conversation he explains the warning signs of insolvency most owners miss, why shame and hope keep people from asking for help until it's too late, and how accountants can protect both their clients and themselves with one simple habit.</p><p></p><p>In this episode:</p><p>- The real test of whether a business is solvent (it's not the balance sheet)</p><p>- The early warning signs most owners ignore until it's too late</p><p>- Why "if this one payment comes in, I'll be fine" is so dangerous</p><p>- The records duty most directors don't know they have</p><p>- How accountants protect themselves with a file note and a frank conversation</p><p>- Why early intervention is the single biggest predictor of survival</p><p></p><p>Connect with Liam:</p><p>LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/liam-bailey-a4939430/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/liam-bailey-a4939430/</a></p><p>O'Brien Palmer: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.obp.com.au" target="_blank">www.obp.com.au</a></p><p></p><p>Chapters :</p><p>00:00 Who Liam is and what he does</p><p>03:41 When accountants come into the picture</p><p>05:14 Why owners wait too long (shame and hope)</p><p>07:46 The early warning signs of insolvency</p><p>10:08 What owners ignore the longest</p><p>12:46 Where accountants fall short</p><p>15:09 Regular check-ins vs once a year</p><p>16:50 The records duty most directors don't know</p><p>20:06 How accounting firms protect themselves</p><p>23:02 The one thing to do better</p><p>24:10 The question to ask clients more often</p><p>29:13 Where to find Liam</p><p></p><p>The Ledger is the accounting series of The Operator's Playbook, hosted by Bianca, founder of WeFlow. Honest conversations with the people who run service businesses.</p><p></p><p>If your firm wants to spend less time on the compliance grind and more on the advisory conversations that actually help clients, that's what we build at WeFlow. </p><p></p><p>Have a look at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://weflowpro.com" target="_blank">weflowpro.com</a> or message Bianca on Instagram @weflowpro.</p><p></p><p>New episodes weekly. Subscribe so you don't miss them.</p><p></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">fcd916b2-b4e1-40aa-a9a4-2fd09ac0fe0d</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bianca Basilio]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2026 23:30:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/405b514970b53b97cf4a8ec864c15f5128199c82ea5927b7497b989a909f5aa5/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJmY2Q5MTZiMi1iNGUxLTQwYWEtYTlhNC0yZmQwOWFjMGZlMGQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMmI0NDAyMC03MjJmLTRjMGUtOTAxNS1lMzllMTc2ZmFmZDciLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGVmNDI1YTc4NzkyMzAyNGY5ZGM4MmQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjllZmRlMDA4ZDM4NGYzOWY2NTY4YTIxL2JpYW5jYS1iYXNpbGlvLWRlLXNhLWJhcnJldG9zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTQtMjhfXzAtNi01Ni5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="59586917" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/episodes/fcd916b2-b4e1-40aa-a9a4-2fd09ac0fe0d/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Most business owners call a liquidator far too late. Liam Bailey wants to change that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Liam is the managing partner of O&apos;Brien Palmer and a registered liquidator, and he spends his days helping businesses either turn around or wind down. In this conversation he explains the warning signs of insolvency most owners miss, why shame and hope keep people from asking for help until it&apos;s too late, and how accountants can protect both their clients and themselves with one simple habit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- The real test of whether a business is solvent (it&apos;s not the balance sheet)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- The early warning signs most owners ignore until it&apos;s too late&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Why &quot;if this one payment comes in, I&apos;ll be fine&quot; is so dangerous&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- The records duty most directors don&apos;t know they have&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- How accountants protect themselves with a file note and a frank conversation&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Why early intervention is the single biggest predictor of survival&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Liam:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/liam-bailey-a4939430/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/liam-bailey-a4939430/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;O&apos;Brien Palmer: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.obp.com.au&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.obp.com.au&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chapters :&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;00:00 Who Liam is and what he does&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;03:41 When accountants come into the picture&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;05:14 Why owners wait too long (shame and hope)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;07:46 The early warning signs of insolvency&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;10:08 What owners ignore the longest&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;12:46 Where accountants fall short&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;15:09 Regular check-ins vs once a year&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;16:50 The records duty most directors don&apos;t know&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;20:06 How accounting firms protect themselves&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;23:02 The one thing to do better&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;24:10 The question to ask clients more often&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;29:13 Where to find Liam&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Ledger is the accounting series of The Operator&apos;s Playbook, hosted by Bianca, founder of WeFlow. Honest conversations with the people who run service businesses.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If your firm wants to spend less time on the compliance grind and more on the advisory conversations that actually help clients, that&apos;s what we build at WeFlow. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Have a look at &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://weflowpro.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;weflowpro.com&lt;/a&gt; or message Bianca on Instagram @weflowpro.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;New episodes weekly. Subscribe so you don&apos;t miss them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:31:02</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/logos/eec173c1-b9cb-4526-ac44-19abc1c74f49.png"/><itunes:title>What a Liquidator Wishes Every Business Owner Knew | Liam Bailey</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why This Firm Turns Away More Clients Than It Takes On | Elle Green]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Most accountants take every client who can pay. Elle Green built her firm by turning most of them away.</p><p></p><p>Elle is the co-founder of Acctivate Business Accountants, and 18 months in she's declined more work than she's accepted. In this conversation we get into why being that picky actually protects the firm, what changed when she stepped into the director role, how she's using AI to take over the admin without changing the client experience, and the leap it took to leave a safe job and build something on her own terms.</p><p></p><p>In this episode:</p><p>- Why turning away the wrong clients protects your team and your margins</p><p>- What actually changes when you go from doing the work to leading the firm</p><p>- Putting staff happiness first, even when it means pushing back a sale</p><p>- How she's automating 90% of the admin without losing the client relationship</p><p>- The leap: leaving a secure job with a young family to start her own firm</p><p>- Her one piece of advice for anyone stepping into a leadership role</p><p></p><p>Connect with Elle:</p><p>LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/elle-sweeney/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/elle-sweeney/</a></p><p>Acctivate: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.acctivate.com.au" target="_blank">www.acctivate.com.au</a></p><p></p><p>Chapters:</p><p>02:44 What Acctivate stands for, and taking the leap</p><p>05:35 Stepping into the director role</p><p>08:21 What stopped being optional</p><p>09:23 Where firms feel friction first</p><p>12:06 The moment something felt unsustainable</p><p>16:06 Investing in AI (the US trip)</p><p>18:26 What still depends on her</p><p>20:35 What she deliberately chose not to do</p><p>23:36 Advice for new leaders</p><p>25:55 Looking ahead, growing slowly</p><p>28:54 Where to find Elle</p><p></p><p>The Ledger is the accounting series of The Operator's Playbook, hosted by Bianca, founder of WeFlow. Honest conversations with the people who run service businesses.</p><p></p><p>Most firms know AI should be taking the admin off their plate but don't know where to start. </p><p></p><p>Finding that starting point is what we do. Have a look at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://weflowpro.com" target="_blank">weflowpro.com</a> or message Bianca on Instagram @weflowpro.</p><p></p><p>New episodes weekly. Subscribe so you don't miss them.</p><p></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">5e20ac49-83f8-4728-9810-a53a250853e9</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bianca Basilio]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2026 23:30:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/99ab9329d300685907eb93a0f834013db419639da648e3d325c132aa05109fef/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1ZTIwYWM0OS04M2Y4LTQ3MjgtOTgxMC1hNTNhMjUwODUzZTkiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMmI0NDAyMC03MjJmLTRjMGUtOTAxNS1lMzllMTc2ZmFmZDciLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGVmNDI1YTc4NzkyMzAyNGY5ZGM4MmQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEzZTk3MjdkNDgzODI0N2MwZmJmNzRhL2JpYW5jYS1iYXNpbGlvLWRlLXNhLWJhcnJldG9zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTYtMjZfXzE3LTEzLTQyLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="45984017" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/episodes/5e20ac49-83f8-4728-9810-a53a250853e9/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Most accountants take every client who can pay. Elle Green built her firm by turning most of them away.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Elle is the co-founder of Acctivate Business Accountants, and 18 months in she&apos;s declined more work than she&apos;s accepted. In this conversation we get into why being that picky actually protects the firm, what changed when she stepped into the director role, how she&apos;s using AI to take over the admin without changing the client experience, and the leap it took to leave a safe job and build something on her own terms.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Why turning away the wrong clients protects your team and your margins&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- What actually changes when you go from doing the work to leading the firm&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Putting staff happiness first, even when it means pushing back a sale&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- How she&apos;s automating 90% of the admin without losing the client relationship&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- The leap: leaving a secure job with a young family to start her own firm&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Her one piece of advice for anyone stepping into a leadership role&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Elle:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/elle-sweeney/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/elle-sweeney/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Acctivate: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.acctivate.com.au&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.acctivate.com.au&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chapters:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;02:44 What Acctivate stands for, and taking the leap&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;05:35 Stepping into the director role&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;08:21 What stopped being optional&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;09:23 Where firms feel friction first&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;12:06 The moment something felt unsustainable&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;16:06 Investing in AI (the US trip)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;18:26 What still depends on her&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;20:35 What she deliberately chose not to do&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;23:36 Advice for new leaders&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;25:55 Looking ahead, growing slowly&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;28:54 Where to find Elle&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Ledger is the accounting series of The Operator&apos;s Playbook, hosted by Bianca, founder of WeFlow. Honest conversations with the people who run service businesses.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most firms know AI should be taking the admin off their plate but don&apos;t know where to start. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Finding that starting point is what we do. Have a look at &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://weflowpro.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;weflowpro.com&lt;/a&gt; or message Bianca on Instagram @weflowpro.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;New episodes weekly. Subscribe so you don&apos;t miss them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:23:57</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/logos/eec173c1-b9cb-4526-ac44-19abc1c74f49.png"/><itunes:title>Why This Firm Turns Away More Clients Than It Takes On | Elle Green</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Clients Don't Care What Software You Use | Paul Sweeney]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>When you hire a plumber, you don't ask what brand of power tools he uses. You just want the job done. Paul Sweeney says that's exactly what most accountants get wrong.</p><p></p><p>Paul runs Pretium Solutions and has spent 30 years advising small and medium businesses (he also hosts the Business Behind Your Business podcast). In this conversation we get into why firms sell software and reports instead of the outcomes clients actually want, the costly habit of deciding "no" for your client before you've even asked, and why the simplest process usually wins.</p><p></p><p>In this episode:</p><p>- Why clients don't care which software you use, and what they're actually buying</p><p>- The "report trap": selling tools instead of outcomes</p><p>- "Don't say no for your client": the assumption that quietly costs firms revenue</p><p>- How one firm grew revenue 76% in six months just by offering the service to everyone</p><p>- Cutting a 55-step process down to 7</p><p>- The three things every business owner actually worries about (and why it's not tax)</p><p>- Where AI speeds things up, and where the human has to stay</p><p></p><p>Connect with Paul: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulsweeneypretium/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulsweeneypretium/</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://pretiumsolutions.com.au/" target="_blank">https://pretiumsolutions.com.au/</a></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://PaulSweeneyAccountant.au" target="_blank">PaulSweeneyAccountant.au</a></p><p></p><p>Chapters:</p><p>04:49 Who Paul is and what Pretium does</p><p>06:15 Why advisory, not just compliance</p><p>08:32 Selling tools vs outcomes (the plumber analogy)</p><p>14:46 Why firms stay stuck on compliance</p><p>17:56 What business owners actually worry about</p><p>19:46 Don't say no for your client + the 76% story</p><p>23:23 Imposter syndrome and just starting</p><p>27:41 Why firms overcomplicate (55 steps vs 7)</p><p>30:33 Where AI helps and where it doesn't</p><p>34:33 What to focus on over the next 90 days</p><p></p><p>The Ledger is the accounting series of The Operator's Playbook, hosted by Bianca, founder of WeFlow. Honest conversations with the people who run service businesses.</p><p></p><p>Most firms get stuck selling tools instead of outcomes, and doing admin instead of advising. </p><p></p><p>Clearing that out is what we build. Have a look at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://weflowpro.com" target="_blank">weflowpro.com</a> or message Bianca on Instagram @weflowpro.</p><p></p><p>New episodes weekly. Subscribe so you don't miss them.</p><p></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">1b834ff7-daf4-4e55-b046-8d60aa7045bd</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bianca Basilio]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/284b5f1a6d878b5c49591a942d96de475a9482874222ef76bbd3199c01c97804/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIxYjgzNGZmNy1kYWY0LTRlNTUtYjA0Ni04ZDYwYWE3MDQ1YmQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMmI0NDAyMC03MjJmLTRjMGUtOTAxNS1lMzllMTc2ZmFmZDciLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGVmNDI1YTc4NzkyMzAyNGY5ZGM4MmQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEzY2VkMDVhYmYwZjAzYWI5OGE2OWY2L2JpYW5jYS1iYXNpbGlvLWRlLXNhLWJhcnJldG9zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTYtMjVfXzEwLTU1LTMzLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="53778956" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/episodes/1b834ff7-daf4-4e55-b046-8d60aa7045bd/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;When you hire a plumber, you don&apos;t ask what brand of power tools he uses. You just want the job done. Paul Sweeney says that&apos;s exactly what most accountants get wrong.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Paul runs Pretium Solutions and has spent 30 years advising small and medium businesses (he also hosts the Business Behind Your Business podcast). In this conversation we get into why firms sell software and reports instead of the outcomes clients actually want, the costly habit of deciding &quot;no&quot; for your client before you&apos;ve even asked, and why the simplest process usually wins.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Why clients don&apos;t care which software you use, and what they&apos;re actually buying&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- The &quot;report trap&quot;: selling tools instead of outcomes&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- &quot;Don&apos;t say no for your client&quot;: the assumption that quietly costs firms revenue&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- How one firm grew revenue 76% in six months just by offering the service to everyone&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Cutting a 55-step process down to 7&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- The three things every business owner actually worries about (and why it&apos;s not tax)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Where AI speeds things up, and where the human has to stay&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Paul: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulsweeneypretium/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulsweeneypretium/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://pretiumsolutions.com.au/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://pretiumsolutions.com.au/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://PaulSweeneyAccountant.au&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;PaulSweeneyAccountant.au&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chapters:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;04:49 Who Paul is and what Pretium does&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;06:15 Why advisory, not just compliance&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;08:32 Selling tools vs outcomes (the plumber analogy)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;14:46 Why firms stay stuck on compliance&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;17:56 What business owners actually worry about&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;19:46 Don&apos;t say no for your client + the 76% story&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;23:23 Imposter syndrome and just starting&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;27:41 Why firms overcomplicate (55 steps vs 7)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;30:33 Where AI helps and where it doesn&apos;t&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;34:33 What to focus on over the next 90 days&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Ledger is the accounting series of The Operator&apos;s Playbook, hosted by Bianca, founder of WeFlow. Honest conversations with the people who run service businesses.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most firms get stuck selling tools instead of outcomes, and doing admin instead of advising. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Clearing that out is what we build. Have a look at &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://weflowpro.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;weflowpro.com&lt;/a&gt; or message Bianca on Instagram @weflowpro.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;New episodes weekly. Subscribe so you don&apos;t miss them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:28:01</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/logos/eec173c1-b9cb-4526-ac44-19abc1c74f49.png"/><itunes:title>Why Clients Don&apos;t Care What Software You Use | Paul Sweeney</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Most Accountants Can't Help You Grow]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Peter Ristevski says most accountants can't even run their own business, and that is exactly why they can't help you grow yours.</p><p></p><p>Peter is the CEO of Investment Plus Accounting Group, the self-described "financial surgeon," and he doesn't hold back. In this conversation we get into why most accountants hide in compliance, why the word "accountant" isn't even legislated (and what that means for who you trust with your money), and how the right structure can be the difference between surviving a bad year and losing everything.</p><p></p><p>If you run a business and your accountant only ever shows up at tax time, this one will make you rethink that relationship.</p><p></p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>Why compliance is a race to the bottom, and where the real value actually sits</li><li>The "financial surgeon" method: reading a business like an X-ray before touching anything</li><li>The structuring mistakes that quietly cost owners stamp duty and capital gains tax twice</li><li>How to ring-fence your trading business so one bad event doesn't sink everything</li><li>The new law that can force your accountant to report you, and why Peter says trust is broken</li><li>Why his clients are setting up in Dubai, and what Australia keeps getting wrong</li><li>Where AI genuinely helps an accounting firm, and where it doesn't</li></ul><p></p><p>Connect with Peter: <br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-ristevski-6677b018/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-ristevski-6677b018/</a><br />Investment Plus Accounting Group: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-ristevski-6677b018/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-ristevski-6677b018/</a></p><p></p><p>Chapters:<br />00:00 Introduction<br />00:31 Why accountants struggle as business people<br />03:20 The "financial surgeon" concept<br />06:52 Diagnosing a business structure<br />09:28 Challenging the status quo<br />12:23 What real tax planning looks like<br />14:46 The most common structuring mistakes<br />16:41 Scaling the firm and expanding to Dubai<br />21:41 The future of accounting firms<br />23:07 How to reach Peter</p><p></p><hr /><p>The Ledger is the accounting series of The Operator's Playbook, hosted by Bianca, founder of WeFlow. Honest conversations with the people who run service businesses.</p><p></p><p>Most firms lose hours every week to chasing documents and admin a system could handle, time that should go to the advisory work that actually pays. That's what we build. Have a look at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://weflowpro.com" target="_blank">weflowpro.com</a> or message Bianca on Instagram @weflowpro.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">50753c98-c9be-45db-a252-ec81f881b26a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bianca Basilio]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2026 07:35:45 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/f48e0c89c284889a9d1142b3b756be5a3bd6554becba160da973a41fe5a780cf/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1MDc1M2M5OC1jOWJlLTQ1ZGItYTI1Mi1lYzgxZjg4MWIyNmEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMmI0NDAyMC03MjJmLTRjMGUtOTAxNS1lMzllMTc2ZmFmZDciLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGVmNDI1YTc4NzkyMzAyNGY5ZGM4MmQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEzY2Q3ZTlmMGVmYjM1ZGI1YmZiNjgzL2JpYW5jYS1iYXNpbGlvLWRlLXNhLWJhcnJldG9zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTYtMjVfXzktMjUtMjkubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="46130303" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/episodes/50753c98-c9be-45db-a252-ec81f881b26a/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Peter Ristevski says most accountants can&apos;t even run their own business, and that is exactly why they can&apos;t help you grow yours.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Peter is the CEO of Investment Plus Accounting Group, the self-described &quot;financial surgeon,&quot; and he doesn&apos;t hold back. In this conversation we get into why most accountants hide in compliance, why the word &quot;accountant&quot; isn&apos;t even legislated (and what that means for who you trust with your money), and how the right structure can be the difference between surviving a bad year and losing everything.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you run a business and your accountant only ever shows up at tax time, this one will make you rethink that relationship.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why compliance is a race to the bottom, and where the real value actually sits&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The &quot;financial surgeon&quot; method: reading a business like an X-ray before touching anything&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The structuring mistakes that quietly cost owners stamp duty and capital gains tax twice&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;How to ring-fence your trading business so one bad event doesn&apos;t sink everything&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The new law that can force your accountant to report you, and why Peter says trust is broken&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why his clients are setting up in Dubai, and what Australia keeps getting wrong&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Where AI genuinely helps an accounting firm, and where it doesn&apos;t&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Peter: &lt;br /&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-ristevski-6677b018/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-ristevski-6677b018/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Investment Plus Accounting Group: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-ristevski-6677b018/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-ristevski-6677b018/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chapters:&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Introduction&lt;br /&gt;00:31 Why accountants struggle as business people&lt;br /&gt;03:20 The &quot;financial surgeon&quot; concept&lt;br /&gt;06:52 Diagnosing a business structure&lt;br /&gt;09:28 Challenging the status quo&lt;br /&gt;12:23 What real tax planning looks like&lt;br /&gt;14:46 The most common structuring mistakes&lt;br /&gt;16:41 Scaling the firm and expanding to Dubai&lt;br /&gt;21:41 The future of accounting firms&lt;br /&gt;23:07 How to reach Peter&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Ledger is the accounting series of The Operator&apos;s Playbook, hosted by Bianca, founder of WeFlow. Honest conversations with the people who run service businesses.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most firms lose hours every week to chasing documents and admin a system could handle, time that should go to the advisory work that actually pays. That&apos;s what we build. Have a look at &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://weflowpro.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;weflowpro.com&lt;/a&gt; or message Bianca on Instagram @weflowpro.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:24:01</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/logos/eec173c1-b9cb-4526-ac44-19abc1c74f49.png"/><itunes:title>Why Most Accountants Can&apos;t Help You Grow</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Still Doing Manual Accounting? Why Most Firms Get Stuck Before They Scale]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>with Chris Davey</p><p></p><p>In this episode of <i>The Ledger</i>, we explore why so many accounting firms are still relying on manual processes — even with modern tools available.</p><p></p><p>Chris Davey shares real-world perspectives from inside growing firms, unpacking how compliance pressure, fragmented systems, admin overload, and confidence gaps quietly keep teams stuck in reactive work.</p><p></p><p>We talk through where time really disappears, why tech alone doesn’t fix the problem, and what actually creates clarity when firms want to simplify and move toward advisory.</p><p></p><p>This is a practical, honest conversation for firm owners who feel busy, stretched, and know things should be running cleaner than they are.</p><p></p><p>🔗 <b>Connect with our guest</b><br />👤 Chris Davey – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-davey12/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-davey12/</a><br />🌐 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.accountica.com.au" target="_blank">www.accountica.com.au</a></p><p></p><p>🔗 <b>More from The Ledger</b><br />🌐 Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://aiapexautomations.com" target="_blank">https://aiapexautomations.com</a><br />👤 Connect with Bianca on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/biancabasilio" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/biancabasilio</a><br /></p><p>🎧 <b>Listen to The Ledger</b></p><p>📺 YouTube: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@AI.Apex.Automations" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@AI.Apex.Automations</a><br />🎙 Spotify: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2xdt9k1S8nIqCEkxm9R9b3" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/2xdt9k1S8nIqCEkxm9R9b3</a>🎙 Apple Podcasts: </p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ledger-podcast/id1865382862" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ledger-podcast/id1865382862</a></p><p></p><p>#TheLedger #AccountingFirms #FirmOperations #Automation #Advisory #PracticeGrowth</p><p></p><p></p><p></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">9d6ca673-54f0-416d-9078-ef0e8d32b024</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bianca Basilio]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2026 01:11:50 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/f3b8166ea921686d22dea141b67afe99bb07f7396a738e27739412021146aab6/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI5ZDZjYTY3My01NGYwLTQxNmQtOTA3OC1lZjBlOGQzMmIwMjQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMmI0NDAyMC03MjJmLTRjMGUtOTAxNS1lMzllMTc2ZmFmZDciLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGVmNDI1YTc4NzkyMzAyNGY5ZGM4MmQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk0NzVmNWQ0ZDRlOTc5YzdkOTc2YWJlL2JpYW5jYS1iYXNpbGlvLWRlLXNhLWJhcnJldG9zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI1LTEyLTIxX18zLTQ1LTQ5Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="20900487" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;with Chris Davey&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode of &lt;i&gt;The Ledger&lt;/i&gt;, we explore why so many accounting firms are still relying on manual processes — even with modern tools available.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chris Davey shares real-world perspectives from inside growing firms, unpacking how compliance pressure, fragmented systems, admin overload, and confidence gaps quietly keep teams stuck in reactive work.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We talk through where time really disappears, why tech alone doesn’t fix the problem, and what actually creates clarity when firms want to simplify and move toward advisory.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is a practical, honest conversation for firm owners who feel busy, stretched, and know things should be running cleaner than they are.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🔗 &lt;b&gt;Connect with our guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;👤 Chris Davey – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-davey12/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-davey12/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;🌐 &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.accountica.com.au&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.accountica.com.au&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🔗 &lt;b&gt;More from The Ledger&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;🌐 Website: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://aiapexautomations.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://aiapexautomations.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;👤 Connect with Bianca on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/biancabasilio&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/biancabasilio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🎧 &lt;b&gt;Listen to The Ledger&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;📺 YouTube: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/@AI.Apex.Automations&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@AI.Apex.Automations&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;🎙 Spotify: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/2xdt9k1S8nIqCEkxm9R9b3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/2xdt9k1S8nIqCEkxm9R9b3&lt;/a&gt;🎙 Apple Podcasts: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ledger-podcast/id1865382862&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ledger-podcast/id1865382862&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#TheLedger #AccountingFirms #FirmOperations #Automation #Advisory #PracticeGrowth&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:31:19</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/logos/eec173c1-b9cb-4526-ac44-19abc1c74f49.png"/><itunes:title>Still Doing Manual Accounting? Why Most Firms Get Stuck Before They Scale</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Profitable but Broke: Why the Cash Is Never Where You Expect]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>.</p><p></p><p>In this episode of <b>The Ledger</b>, we unpack one of the most frustrating realities for growing businesses: strong profits on paper, but never enough cash in the bank.</p><p></p><p>Morgan Wilson breaks down why this happens so often, even in well-run firms — and how cash flow blind spots quietly limit decision-making and growth.</p><p></p><p>We talk through the real reasons cash disappears, the signals most business owners miss, and how to regain control without becoming obsessed with spreadsheets.</p><p></p><p>🔗 <b>Connect with our guest:</b><br />👤 Morgan Wilson – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-wilson/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-wilson/</a><br />🌐 Creditte: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.creditte.com.au" target="_blank"><b>http://www.creditte.com.au</b></a></p><p></p><p></p><p>🎧 <b>More from The Ledger (by AI Apex Automations):</b><br />🌐 Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://aiapexautomations.com" target="_blank">https://aiapexautomations.com</a><br />👤 Connect with Bianca on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/biancabasilio" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/biancabasilio</a><br />📺 YouTube: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@AI.Apex.Automations" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@AI.Apex.Automations</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>#TheLedger #CashFlow #ProfitableButBroke #AccountingFirms #BusinessOwners #FinancialClarity</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">98ea1a5e-c097-42ed-a826-9f3a9e637de1</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bianca Basilio]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 23:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/1e179c87d0ec11a3291aa57069eec329f92a3eecc17507a5858e7bb856674cb1/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI5OGVhMWE1ZS1jMDk3LTQyZWQtYTgyNi05ZjNhOWU2MzdkZTEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMmI0NDAyMC03MjJmLTRjMGUtOTAxNS1lMzllMTc2ZmFmZDciLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGVmNDI1YTc4NzkyMzAyNGY5ZGM4MmQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjkzMGQxZTBlNzAyOWM3OTY0MzZkODUxL2JpYW5jYS1iYXNpbGlvLWRlLXNhLWJhcnJldG9zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI1LTEyLTRfXzEtMTItMTYubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="24274969" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode of &lt;b&gt;The Ledger&lt;/b&gt;, we unpack one of the most frustrating realities for growing businesses: strong profits on paper, but never enough cash in the bank.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Morgan Wilson breaks down why this happens so often, even in well-run firms — and how cash flow blind spots quietly limit decision-making and growth.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We talk through the real reasons cash disappears, the signals most business owners miss, and how to regain control without becoming obsessed with spreadsheets.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🔗 &lt;b&gt;Connect with our guest:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;👤 Morgan Wilson – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-wilson/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-wilson/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;🌐 Creditte: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.creditte.com.au&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;http://www.creditte.com.au&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🎧 &lt;b&gt;More from The Ledger (by AI Apex Automations):&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;🌐 Website: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://aiapexautomations.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://aiapexautomations.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;👤 Connect with Bianca on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/biancabasilio&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/biancabasilio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;📺 YouTube: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/@AI.Apex.Automations&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@AI.Apex.Automations&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#TheLedger #CashFlow #ProfitableButBroke #AccountingFirms #BusinessOwners #FinancialClarity&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:32:49</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/logos/eec173c1-b9cb-4526-ac44-19abc1c74f49.png"/><itunes:title>Profitable but Broke: Why the Cash Is Never Where You Expect</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Stop Avoiding Your Numbers: The Costly Mistake Keeping Most Business Owners Stuck]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><b>with Nathan Rigney, Founder of NGR Accounting</b></p><p></p><p>In this episode of <i>The Ledger</i>, we unpack why so many business owners avoid their numbers — and how that avoidance quietly keeps firms stuck. Nathan shares real-world insights from working with owner-led businesses, explaining how building a relationship with your numbers leads to better decisions, confidence, and sustainable growth.</p><p></p><p>🔗 Connect with our guest:<br />👤 Nathan Rigney – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-rigney" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-rigney</a><br />🌐 NGR Accounting: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.ngraccounting.com.au" target="_blank">https://www.ngraccounting.com.au</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>🎧 More from <i>The Ledger</i> (by AI Apex Automations):<br />🌐 Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://aiapexautomations.com" target="_blank">https://aiapexautomations.com</a><br />👤 Connect with Bianca on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/biancabasilio" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/biancabasilio</a><br />📺 YouTube: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@AI.Apex.Automations" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@AI.Apex.Automations</a></p><p></p><p>#TheLedger #AccountingFirms #BusinessClarity #Profitability #FirmGrowth</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">0f522b04-cdcc-4565-92f4-f73fdeada502</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bianca Basilio]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2026 23:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/518e8be8688ad6d3ab6fc5f10ffc7787c0d9913719ed74eca930320fbd4189fa/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIwZjUyMmIwNC1jZGNjLTQ1NjUtOTJmNC1mNzNmZGVhZGE1MDIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMmI0NDAyMC03MjJmLTRjMGUtOTAxNS1lMzllMTc2ZmFmZDciLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGVmNDI1YTc4NzkyMzAyNGY5ZGM4MmQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjkxZDc3ODU4MTQ0NmJiOTgwZGViY2NkL2JpYW5jYS1iYXNpbGlvLWRlLXNhLWJhcnJldG9zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI1LTExLTE5X184LTUzLTQxLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="19803325" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;with Nathan Rigney, Founder of NGR Accounting&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode of &lt;i&gt;The Ledger&lt;/i&gt;, we unpack why so many business owners avoid their numbers — and how that avoidance quietly keeps firms stuck. Nathan shares real-world insights from working with owner-led businesses, explaining how building a relationship with your numbers leads to better decisions, confidence, and sustainable growth.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🔗 Connect with our guest:&lt;br /&gt;👤 Nathan Rigney – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-rigney&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-rigney&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;🌐 NGR Accounting: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.ngraccounting.com.au&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.ngraccounting.com.au&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🎧 More from &lt;i&gt;The Ledger&lt;/i&gt; (by AI Apex Automations):&lt;br /&gt;🌐 Website: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://aiapexautomations.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://aiapexautomations.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;👤 Connect with Bianca on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/biancabasilio&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/biancabasilio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;📺 YouTube: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/@AI.Apex.Automations&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@AI.Apex.Automations&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#TheLedger #AccountingFirms #BusinessClarity #Profitability #FirmGrowth&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:26:27</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/22b44020-722f-4c0e-9015-e39e176fafd7/episodes/0f522b04-cdcc-4565-92f4-f73fdeada502/images/ea06bf98-87a0-421f-8641-8cedbd9ca550.png"/><itunes:title>Stop Avoiding Your Numbers: The Costly Mistake Keeping Most Business Owners Stuck</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>