<![CDATA[Primal HR Podcast]]>Primal HR is where honest workplace conversations happen. Hosts Terry Smith (Veteran HR leader) and Leslie Lulham (People First strategist) pull back the curtain on HR, leadership, and workplace culture—tackling the issues most organizations avoid. From hiring and burnout to toxic workplaces and return-to-office mandates, they bring real-world experience, humor, and zero corporate fluff. Whether you're in HR, manage people, or just want to understand how work really works, this is your podcast. Episodes are 15-20 minutes: quick, digestible, and useful.

]]>www.primalhrpodcast.comRiverside.fm (https://riverside.com)Sat, 10 Oct 2026 15:13:03 GMTSat, 18 Apr 2026 17:45:16 GMT60Tim<p><b>Primal HR</b> is where honest workplace conversations happen. Hosts <b>Terry Smith</b> (Veteran HR leader) and<b> Leslie Lulham</b> (People First strategist) pull back the curtain on HR, leadership, and workplace culture—tackling the issues most organizations avoid. From hiring and burnout to toxic workplaces and return-to-office mandates, they bring real-world experience, humor, and zero corporate fluff. Whether you're in HR, manage people, or just want to understand how work really works, this is your podcast. Episodes are 15-20 minutes: quick, digestible, and useful.</p>episodicTimtimhohl@gmail.comno<![CDATA[Nike's $7.5 Million Verdict: Where Was HR?]]>A $7.5 million verdict against Nike raises a question every HR professional should be asking: Where was HR?

Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham kick off Season 3 of Primal HR with a conversation about a gender discrimination case involving pay and promotional opportunities at Nike.

They examine how workplace complaints can escalate into costly legal battles, why employees sometimes hesitate to report problems to HR and what happens when an organization's culture discourages people from speaking up.

They also compare Nike's public response to the verdict with SHRM's response to its own discrimination case, exploring what those contrasting approaches say about leadership, accountability and corporate communication.

What We Get Into:

  • The Nike discrimination verdict and its implications
  • Why employees may be reluctant to approach HR
  • The importance of identifying workplace problems early
  • Nike versus SHRM: Two very different public responses
  • Unconscious bias and the value of harassment prevention training
  • How HR can build trust and create a culture where employees feel heard

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]]>87b696d1-345e-4516-ae00-5c07e96f304cThu, 08 Oct 2026 19:45:00 GMT<p>A $7.5 million verdict against Nike raises a question every HR professional should be asking: Where was HR?</p><p>Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham kick off Season 3 of Primal HR with a conversation about a gender discrimination case involving pay and promotional opportunities at Nike.</p><p>They examine how workplace complaints can escalate into costly legal battles, why employees sometimes hesitate to report problems to HR and what happens when an organization's culture discourages people from speaking up.</p><p>They also compare Nike's public response to the verdict with SHRM's response to its own discrimination case, exploring what those contrasting approaches say about leadership, accountability and corporate communication.</p><p><b><strong>What We Get Into:</strong></b></p><ul><li>The Nike discrimination verdict and its implications</li><li>Why employees may be reluctant to approach HR</li><li>The importance of identifying workplace problems early</li><li>Nike versus SHRM: Two very different public responses</li><li>Unconscious bias and the value of harassment prevention training</li><li>How HR can build trust and create a culture where employees feel heard</li></ul><p><b><strong>Real people. Real talk. Real HR.</strong></b></p><p><b><strong>Stay Connected</strong></b></p><p>🌐 <a href="https://primalhrpodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><b><strong>primalhrpodcast.com</strong></b></a></p><p>📧 <a href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><b><strong>hello@primalhrpodcast.com</strong></b></a></p><p>💼 <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><b><strong>LinkedIn</strong></b></a></p>no00:20:2331Nike's $7.5 Million Verdict: Where Was HR?full<![CDATA[The Candidate Experience: Why Onboarding Starts Before Day One]]>When does onboarding really begin? On an employee’s first day, or the moment they apply for a job?

Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham kick off Season 3 of Primal HR with a conversation about recruiting, hiring and the candidate experience. From automated rejection emails to endless rounds of interviews, they look at how the hiring process shapes a candidate’s impression of an organization long before a job offer is made.

They also explore how employers can make recruiting more personal, communicate more thoughtfully with applicants and make better hiring decisions without losing sight of the people involved.

What we get into:

  • Why onboarding starts with recruiting, not day one
  • How the hiring process shapes an employer's reputation
  • Why rejected candidates still deserve a positive experience
  • The problem with automated rejection emails
  • How many interviews are too many?
  • Why consistent candidate evaluations matter
  • Balancing recruiting technology with the human side of hiring

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]]>f168241b-3a0f-4d34-b7b9-ac0254367f20Thu, 08 Oct 2026 19:48:33 GMT<p>When does onboarding really begin? On an employee’s first day, or the moment they apply for a job?</p><p>Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham kick off Season 3 of Primal HR with a conversation about recruiting, hiring and the candidate experience. From automated rejection emails to endless rounds of interviews, they look at how the hiring process shapes a candidate’s impression of an organization long before a job offer is made.</p><p>They also explore how employers can make recruiting more personal, communicate more thoughtfully with applicants and make better hiring decisions without losing sight of the people involved.</p><p><b><strong>What we get into:</strong></b></p><ul><li>Why onboarding starts with recruiting, not day one</li><li>How the hiring process shapes an employer's reputation</li><li>Why rejected candidates still deserve a positive experience</li><li>The problem with automated rejection emails</li><li>How many interviews are too many?</li><li>Why consistent candidate evaluations matter</li><li>Balancing recruiting technology with the human side of hiring</li></ul><p><b><strong>Real people. Real talk. Real HR.</strong></b></p><p><b><strong>Stay Connected</strong></b></p><p>🌐 <a href="https://primalhrpodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><b><strong>primalhrpodcast.com</strong></b></a></p><p>📧 <a href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><b><strong>hello@primalhrpodcast.com</strong></b></a></p><p>💼 <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><b><strong>LinkedIn</strong></b></a></p>no00:21:1033The Candidate Experience: Why Onboarding Starts Before Day Onefull<![CDATA[Performance Improvement Plans: A Path Forward or a Way Out?]]>Is a performance improvement plan really about helping an employee improve, or is it just the first step toward firing them?

Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham take a closer look at performance improvement plans, better known as PIPs, and why they've earned such a bad reputation. Drawing on their own experiences, they discuss what happens when managers fail to address performance problems early and then turn to a formal PIP as a last resort.

The conversation explores how clear expectations, measurable goals and regular communication can make the difference between giving someone a real opportunity to improve and simply setting them up to fail.

What we get into:

  • Why PIPs have such a bad reputation
  • When a performance improvement plan makes sense
  • The importance of clear, measurable and realistic goals
  • Why performance problems should never come as a surprise
  • How poor management and documentation lead to ineffective PIPs
  • Why managers shouldn't move the goalposts
  • How regular check-ins and coaching can help employees succeed

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]]>1571727c-fec9-445a-85b1-ed655dd866edThu, 08 Oct 2026 19:45:00 GMT<p>Is a performance improvement plan really about helping an employee improve, or is it just the first step toward firing them?</p><p>Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham take a closer look at performance improvement plans, better known as PIPs, and why they've earned such a bad reputation. Drawing on their own experiences, they discuss what happens when managers fail to address performance problems early and then turn to a formal PIP as a last resort.</p><p>The conversation explores how clear expectations, measurable goals and regular communication can make the difference between giving someone a real opportunity to improve and simply setting them up to fail.</p><p><b><strong>What we get into:</strong></b></p><ul><li>Why PIPs have such a bad reputation</li><li>When a performance improvement plan makes sense</li><li>The importance of clear, measurable and realistic goals</li><li>Why performance problems should never come as a surprise</li><li>How poor management and documentation lead to ineffective PIPs</li><li>Why managers shouldn't move the goalposts</li><li>How regular check-ins and coaching can help employees succeed</li></ul><p><b><strong>Real people. Real talk. Real HR.</strong></b></p><p><b><strong>Stay Connected</strong></b></p><p>🌐 <a href="https://primalhrpodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><b><strong>primalhrpodcast.com</strong></b></a></p><p>📧 <a href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><b><strong>hello@primalhrpodcast.com</strong></b></a></p><p>💼 <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow"><b><strong>LinkedIn</strong></b></a></p>no00:16:0232Performance Improvement Plans: A Path Forward or a Way Out?full<![CDATA[Beyond the Rooney Rule: Turning Intent Into Impact]]>What can the Rooney Rule teach organizations beyond the NFL?

Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham continue their conversation with Dr. Enrique Washington, exploring how the Rooney Rule has influenced hiring practices across professional sports and corporate America. But adopting a policy is only the beginning. The real question is whether it actually changes outcomes.

The conversation examines the difference between intent and impact, why there is no one-size-fits-all approach to creating opportunity, and how thoughtful leaders can build hiring and talent practices that work within their own organizations.

What we get into:

  • How the Rooney Rule expanded beyond the NFL
  • Why organizations adopted similar hiring practices
  • The difference between good intentions and measurable impact
  • Why diversity initiatives can't simply be copied from one organization to another
  • How leaders can reduce bias and create more objective hiring practices
  • Why defining what success looks like matters throughout the employee journey

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]]>c6182b2e-9629-4399-93c2-e713af5fb902Fri, 18 Sep 2026 03:04:37 GMT<p>What can the Rooney Rule teach organizations beyond the NFL?</p><p></p><p>Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham continue their conversation with Dr. Enrique Washington, exploring how the Rooney Rule has influenced hiring practices across professional sports and corporate America. But adopting a policy is only the beginning. The real question is whether it actually changes outcomes.</p><p></p><p>The conversation examines the difference between intent and impact, why there is no one-size-fits-all approach to creating opportunity, and how thoughtful leaders can build hiring and talent practices that work within their own organizations.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b></p><p></p><ul><li>How the Rooney Rule expanded beyond the NFL</li><li>Why organizations adopted similar hiring practices</li><li>The difference between good intentions and measurable impact</li><li>Why diversity initiatives can't simply be copied from one organization to another</li><li>How leaders can reduce bias and create more objective hiring practices</li><li>Why defining what success looks like matters throughout the employee journey</li><li></li></ul><p><b>Real people. Real talk. Real HR.</b></p><h3>Stay Connected</h3><p>🌐 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank"><b>primalhrpodcast.com</b></a></p><p>📧 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank"><b>hello@primalhrpodcast.com</b></a></p><p>💼 <b>LinkedIn</b></p>no00:16:38212Beyond the Rooney Rule: Turning Intent Into Impactfull<![CDATA[Who Gets the Opportunity? Succession, Mentorship and Access]]>Getting the opportunity is one thing. Having a clear path to get there is another.

Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham continue their conversation with Dr. Enrique Washington, exploring what his research with NFL coaches reveals about succession planning, mentorship, access, and career advancement. From informal networks to formal development programs, they examine what happens when organizations fail to clearly define what success looks like and how people can move forward.

The conversation also explores the role of trust and psychological safety, and why the strongest mentoring relationships often go far beyond talking about the job.

What we get into:

  • Why effective succession planning starts with clear expectations and strategy
  • How informal networks can shape access to career opportunities
  • What NFL coaches shared about mentorship and professional development
  • The difference between formal programs and relationships that develop organically
  • Why access to development opportunities matters as much as creating the programs
  • How trust and mentorship can build psychological safety

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]]>98c0db56-6498-4889-bc84-efff59d4ff3bThu, 17 Sep 2026 23:00:00 GMT<p>Getting the opportunity is one thing. Having a clear path to get there is another.</p><p></p><p>Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham continue their conversation with Dr. Enrique Washington, exploring what his research with NFL coaches reveals about succession planning, mentorship, access, and career advancement. From informal networks to formal development programs, they examine what happens when organizations fail to clearly define what success looks like and how people can move forward.</p><p></p><p>The conversation also explores the role of trust and psychological safety, and why the strongest mentoring relationships often go far beyond talking about the job.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b></p><ul><li>Why effective succession planning starts with clear expectations and strategy</li><li>How informal networks can shape access to career opportunities</li><li>What NFL coaches shared about mentorship and professional development</li><li>The difference between formal programs and relationships that develop organically</li><li>Why access to development opportunities matters as much as creating the programs</li><li>How trust and mentorship can build psychological safety</li></ul><p></p><p><b>Real people. Real talk. Real HR.</b></p><h3>Stay Connected</h3><p>🌐 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank"><b>primalhrpodcast.com</b></a></p><p>📧 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank"><b>hello@primalhrpodcast.com</b></a></p><p>💼 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/?viewAsMember=true" target="_blank"><b>LinkedIn</b></a></p>no00:20:20211Who Gets the Opportunity? Succession, Mentorship and Accessfull<![CDATA[The Rooney Rule: When Opportunity Becomes a Box to Check]]>What happens when a hiring policy designed to create opportunity becomes just another box to check?

Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham welcome Dr. Enrique Washington to the Primal HR Podcast for a conversation about the NFL’s Rooney Rule and what his research reveals about hiring, advancement, and opportunity. Drawing on extensive interviews with Black NFL coaches, Dr. Washington explores the difference between creating an opportunity on paper and creating one that is actually real.

The conversation also goes beyond football, connecting the experiences of NFL coaches to challenges HR professionals, recruiters, and job seekers see every day.

What we get into:

  • The origins and purpose of the NFL’s Rooney Rule
  • What Dr. Washington learned from the lived experiences of Black NFL coaches
  • The difference between the intent of a hiring policy and its actual impact
  • Why some candidates know an interview isn’t a real opportunity
  • How “check-the-box” hiring practices waste candidates’ time and undermine trust
  • What the Rooney Rule can teach HR leaders about fair and equitable recruiting

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]]>6ab44882-4393-4001-84ab-9d43ff7a9643Thu, 17 Sep 2026 22:00:00 GMT<p>What happens when a hiring policy designed to create opportunity becomes just another box to check?</p><p></p><p>Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham welcome Dr. Enrique Washington to the Primal HR Podcast for a conversation about the NFL’s Rooney Rule and what his research reveals about hiring, advancement, and opportunity. Drawing on extensive interviews with Black NFL coaches, Dr. Washington explores the difference between creating an opportunity on paper and creating one that is actually real.</p><p></p><p>The conversation also goes beyond football, connecting the experiences of NFL coaches to challenges HR professionals, recruiters, and job seekers see every day.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b></p><ul><li>The origins and purpose of the NFL’s Rooney Rule</li><li>What Dr. Washington learned from the lived experiences of Black NFL coaches</li><li>The difference between the intent of a hiring policy and its actual impact</li><li>Why some candidates know an interview isn’t a real opportunity</li><li>How “check-the-box” hiring practices waste candidates’ time and undermine trust</li><li>What the Rooney Rule can teach HR leaders about fair and equitable recruiting</li></ul><p></p><p><b>Real people. Real talk. Real HR.</b></p><h3>Stay Connected</h3><p>🌐 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank"><b>primalhrpodcast.com</b></a></p><p>📧 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank"><b>hello@primalhrpodcast.com</b></a></p><p>💼 <b>LinkedIn</b></p>no00:20:45210The Rooney Rule: When Opportunity Becomes a Box to Checkfull<![CDATA[Compensation Is More Than a Paycheck]]>Compensation isn't just about salary.

Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore why employees leave organizations, the growing disconnect between how companies and employees view fair pay, and why benefits, communication, and trust all play a critical role in the employee experience. They also discuss total rewards statements and why understanding your complete compensation package matters more than ever.

What we get into:

  • Why people rarely leave because of pay alone
  • Understanding total compensation and total rewards
  • The gap between employee and HR perceptions of fair pay
  • Rising costs of living and salary expectations
  • The importance of benefits beyond base salary
  • Communicating compensation with transparency and trust

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]]>070f76bc-99cc-4a4a-a314-506493ed204eMon, 27 Jul 2026 23:25:21 GMT<p>Compensation isn't just about salary.</p><p></p><p>Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore why employees leave organizations, the growing disconnect between how companies and employees view fair pay, and why benefits, communication, and trust all play a critical role in the employee experience. They also discuss total rewards statements and why understanding your complete compensation package matters more than ever.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b></p><ul><li>Why people rarely leave because of pay alone</li><li>Understanding total compensation and total rewards</li><li>The gap between employee and HR perceptions of fair pay</li><li>Rising costs of living and salary expectations</li><li>The importance of benefits beyond base salary</li><li>Communicating compensation with transparency and trust</li></ul><p></p><p><b>Real people. Real talk. Real HR.</b></p><h3>Stay Connected</h3><p>🌐 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">primalhrpodcast.com</a></p><p>📧 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a></p><p>💼 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/?viewAsMember=true" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p>no00:19:0329Compensation Is More Than a Paycheckfull<![CDATA[Communication Is a Leadership Skill]]>Good communication isn't just talking—it's building trust.

Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham discuss why effective communication is one of the most important leadership skills in any organization. From active listening and adapting communication styles to creating transparency around company goals, they explore practical ways leaders can improve engagement, strengthen teams, and build a healthier workplace culture.

What we get into:

  • Why communication is about more than sending messages
  • The role of active listening
  • Adapting communication styles to different people
  • Building trust through transparency
  • Connecting employees to company goals
  • How better communication improves engagement and retention

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]]>348fb505-e133-45db-b1c4-0ffe82cfdd43Fri, 24 Jul 2026 15:11:25 GMT<p>Good communication isn't just talking—it's building trust.</p><p></p><p>Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham discuss why effective communication is one of the most important leadership skills in any organization. From active listening and adapting communication styles to creating transparency around company goals, they explore practical ways leaders can improve engagement, strengthen teams, and build a healthier workplace culture.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b></p><ul><li>Why communication is about more than sending messages</li><li>The role of active listening</li><li>Adapting communication styles to different people</li><li>Building trust through transparency</li><li>Connecting employees to company goals</li><li>How better communication improves engagement and retention</li></ul><p></p><p><b>Real people. Real talk. Real HR.</b></p><h3>Stay Connected</h3><p>🌐 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">primalhrpodcast.com</a></p><p>📧 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/?viewAsMember=true" target="_blank">LinkedIn: Primal HR Podcast</a></p>no00:17:0728Communication Is a Leadership Skillfull<![CDATA[Great Onboarding Doesn't Happen by Accident]]>The employee experience starts long before someone sits down at their desk.

Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham discuss what separates memorable onboarding from forgettable first days. From setting clear expectations and defining success to building meaningful connections and accountability, they share practical ideas for creating onboarding programs that help employees feel confident, productive, and ready to contribute from day one.

What we get into:

  • Why onboarding is about more than paperwork
  • Setting employees up for long-term success
  • Creative onboarding ideas that actually work
  • The importance of 30-, 60-, and 90-day check-ins
  • Defining success early for every new hire
  • Why onboarding begins before day one

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]]>a8ac3292-4ce5-45f0-bfe0-7e14528c493aFri, 24 Jul 2026 14:57:39 GMT<p>The employee experience starts long before someone sits down at their desk.</p><p></p><p>Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham discuss what separates memorable onboarding from forgettable first days. From setting clear expectations and defining success to building meaningful connections and accountability, they share practical ideas for creating onboarding programs that help employees feel confident, productive, and ready to contribute from day one.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b></p><ul><li>Why onboarding is about more than paperwork</li><li>Setting employees up for long-term success</li><li>Creative onboarding ideas that actually work</li><li>The importance of 30-, 60-, and 90-day check-ins</li><li>Defining success early for every new hire</li><li>Why onboarding begins before day one</li><li></li></ul><p><b>Real people. Real talk. Real HR.</b></p><h3>Stay Connected</h3><p>🌐 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">primalhrpodcast.com</a></p><p>📧 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/?viewAsMember=true" target="_blank">LinkedIn: Primal HR Podcast</a></p>no00:19:3827Great Onboarding Doesn't Happen by Accidentfull<![CDATA[Litigation: Nobody Wins]]>Employment lawsuits affect more than just companies—they affect the people leading them.

Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham discuss what every manager and HR professional should know about workplace litigation, from documentation and manager training to why preventing problems is always better than defending them in court.

They also explain why, despite what many people think, nobody really wins when litigation becomes part of the workplace.

What we get into:

  • Why HR professionals are often named in lawsuits
  • The importance of documenting employee conversations
  • How manager training helps reduce legal risk
  • Common workplace claims and employment litigation
  • Lessons from real-world HR experiences
  • Why prevention is always the best strategy

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]]>d71c532d-eb8b-4e46-9de5-0b1ff6457664Tue, 21 Jul 2026 15:42:15 GMT<p>Employment lawsuits affect more than just companies—they affect the people leading them.</p><p></p><p>Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham discuss what every manager and HR professional should know about workplace litigation, from documentation and manager training to why preventing problems is always better than defending them in court. </p><p></p><p>They also explain why, despite what many people think, nobody really wins when litigation becomes part of the workplace.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b></p><ul><li>Why HR professionals are often named in lawsuits</li><li>The importance of documenting employee conversations</li><li>How manager training helps reduce legal risk</li><li>Common workplace claims and employment litigation</li><li>Lessons from real-world HR experiences</li><li>Why prevention is always the best strategy</li></ul><p><b>Real people. Real talk. Real HR.</b></p><h3>Stay Connected</h3><p>🌐 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">primalhrpodcast.com</a></p><p>📧 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/?viewAsMember=true" target="_blank">LinkedIn: Primal HR Podcast</a></p>no00:16:3826Litigation: Nobody Winsfull<![CDATA[Now You Are the Leader]]>You got the promotion. Now comes the hard part.

Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore what happens after someone becomes a manager for the first time. They discuss why management is a learned skill, the value of mentorship and leadership training, and how organizations can better prepare new leaders for success instead of expecting them to simply "figure it out."

What we get into:

  • Why great individual contributors don't always make great managers
  • Why management is a learned skill
  • The value of mentorship and leadership training
  • Supporting employees who don't want to manage people
  • Common mistakes organizations make after promotions
  • Building stronger leaders from day one

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]]>8f987936-5db0-47ec-8f52-d38a47fdcb58Tue, 21 Jul 2026 15:39:17 GMT<p>You got the promotion. Now comes the hard part.</p><p></p><p>Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore what happens after someone becomes a manager for the first time. They discuss why management is a learned skill, the value of mentorship and leadership training, and how organizations can better prepare new leaders for success instead of expecting them to simply "figure it out."</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b></p><ul><li>Why great individual contributors don't always make great managers</li><li>Why management is a learned skill</li><li>The value of mentorship and leadership training</li><li>Supporting employees who don't want to manage people</li><li>Common mistakes organizations make after promotions</li><li>Building stronger leaders from day one</li><li></li></ul><p><b>Real people. Real talk. Real HR.</b></p><h3>Stay Connected</h3><p>🌐 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">primalhrpodcast.com</a></p><p>📧 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/?viewAsMember=true" target="_blank">LinkedIn: Primal HR Podcast</a></p>no00:18:3225Now You Are the Leaderfull<![CDATA[Managing Growth and Complexity Across States]]>Remote work and distributed teams have completely changed the HR landscape.

In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore the challenges of navigating compliance, labor laws, remote workforce management, and state-by-state regulations in an increasingly complex workplace environment.

What we get into:
• The growing complexity of multi-state HR compliance
• How AI tools can support HR teams
• Why HRIS platforms matter more than ever
• The importance of verifying compliance information
• Why HR professionals need trusted support networks

Short conversation. Practical insight.

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]]>50534a8a-b973-4235-ac1e-15cc067d1428Tue, 19 May 2026 12:00:00 GMT<p>Remote work and distributed teams have completely changed the HR landscape.</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore the challenges of navigating compliance, labor laws, remote workforce management, and state-by-state regulations in an increasingly complex workplace environment.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• The growing complexity of multi-state HR compliance<br />• How AI tools can support HR teams<br />• Why HRIS platforms matter more than ever<br />• The importance of verifying compliance information<br />• Why HR professionals need trusted support networks</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Practical insight.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:13:1424Managing Growth and Complexity Across Statesfull<![CDATA[Rethinking Work and Skill-Based Hiring]]>What happens when companies stop designing jobs and start designing work?

In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore how organizations can rethink hiring, workforce planning, and team structure in a world where technology, AI, and business needs are changing fast.

What we get into:
• What companies can learn from Blockbuster and Netflix
• Why skill-based hiring matters more than job titles
• Rethinking workforce planning and team structure
• The growing role of AI in hiring and operations
• How organizations can build more adaptable teams

Short conversation. Future-focused thinking.

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]]>57f57b55-5d12-4312-a4f7-4a8a31a295aeTue, 19 May 2026 12:00:00 GMT<p>What happens when companies stop designing jobs and start designing work?</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore how organizations can rethink hiring, workforce planning, and team structure in a world where technology, AI, and business needs are changing fast.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• What companies can learn from Blockbuster and Netflix<br />• Why skill-based hiring matters more than job titles<br />• Rethinking workforce planning and team structure<br />• The growing role of AI in hiring and operations<br />• How organizations can build more adaptable teams</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Future-focused thinking.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:14:1723Rethinking Work and Skill-Based Hiringfull<![CDATA[Networking That Actually Feels Human]]>Networking does not have to feel awkward or transactional.

In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham share a more practical, relationship-first approach to networking and explain how authentic conversations can lead to real opportunities, meaningful connections, and long-term professional relationships.

What we get into:
• Why relationship-first networking works
• How Terry and Leslie met through networking
• Better ways to start and follow up on conversations
• Networking tips for job seekers, consultants, and entrepreneurs
• How to stay top of mind without being pushy

Short conversation. Real talk.

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]]>7282a9de-01c3-4c20-a9a7-4e640e91533bTue, 19 May 2026 12:00:00 GMT<p>Networking does not have to feel awkward or transactional.</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham share a more practical, relationship-first approach to networking and explain how authentic conversations can lead to real opportunities, meaningful connections, and long-term professional relationships.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• Why relationship-first networking works<br />• How Terry and Leslie met through networking<br />• Better ways to start and follow up on conversations<br />• Networking tips for job seekers, consultants, and entrepreneurs<br />• How to stay top of mind without being pushy</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Real talk.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:15:4522Networking That Actually Feels Humanfull<![CDATA[Navigating the Political Climate in the Workplace]]>Welcome to Season 2 of Primal HR Podcast!

Politics and polarization do not stop at the office door.

In this season two premiere, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham discuss how HR leaders and organizations can navigate difficult conversations, workplace tension, and political division while still maintaining respectful, productive environments.

What we get into:
• How politics impacts workplace culture
• Respectful communication and psychological safety
• When HR should intervene
• Supporting employees during stressful times
• Why leadership sets the tone for workplace culture

Short conversation. Real talk.

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Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com
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]]>357d5d94-e72a-407f-a2c5-6f73711f55feTue, 19 May 2026 12:00:00 GMT<p>Welcome to Season 2 of Primal HR Podcast!</p><p></p><p>Politics and polarization do not stop at the office door.</p><p>In this season two premiere, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham discuss how HR leaders and organizations can navigate difficult conversations, workplace tension, and political division while still maintaining respectful, productive environments.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• How politics impacts workplace culture<br />• Respectful communication and psychological safety<br />• When HR should intervene<br />• Supporting employees during stressful times<br />• Why leadership sets the tone for workplace culture</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Real talk.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:15:0021Navigating the Political Climate in the Workplacefull<![CDATA[Fractional vs In-House HR: What You Need to Know]]>Should you hire an in-house HR leader or bring in fractional support?

In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham break down how each approach works and when it makes the most sense, especially for growing companies.

What we get into:
• The difference between fractional and in-house HR
• Cost and flexibility considerations
• When each model makes sense
• Common mistakes when hiring HR too early

Short conversation. Practical insight.

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]]>53c30e7f-357c-43aa-bd6a-8c7f068b9d41Wed, 13 May 2026 20:57:44 GMT<p>Should you hire an in-house HR leader or bring in fractional support?</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham break down how each approach works and when it makes the most sense, especially for growing companies.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• The difference between fractional and in-house HR<br />• Cost and flexibility considerations<br />• When each model makes sense<br />• Common mistakes when hiring HR too early</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Practical insight.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:13:43110Fractional vs In-House HR: What You Need to Knowfull<![CDATA[Workplace Violence: A Primal HR HOT TAKE]]>

Can a single workplace incident reveal bigger cracks in how organizations hire, onboard, and support their people?

In this Primal HR Hot Take, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham react to a warehouse fire allegedly set by a contractor just three weeks into the job and unpack what it means for HR leaders.

What we get into:

• Contractor accountability and third party hiring

• Gaps in onboarding and communication

• Early warning signs and employee support

• Why access to EAPs and resources matters more than ever

Short episode. Real reaction.

Read the story that inspired this episode: https://www.ohioemployerlawblog.com/2026/04/when-workplace-frustration-becomes-five.html

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]]>c37bda09-980c-470f-960f-f1a0154bfef1Thu, 23 Apr 2026 18:39:28 GMT<p></p><p>Can a single workplace incident reveal bigger cracks in how organizations hire, onboard, and support their people?</p><p></p><p>In this <b>Primal HR Hot Take</b>, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham react to a warehouse fire allegedly set by a contractor just three weeks into the job and unpack what it means for HR leaders.</p><p></p><p>What we get into: </p><p>• Contractor accountability and third party hiring </p><p>• Gaps in onboarding and communication</p><p>• Early warning signs and employee support </p><p>• Why access to EAPs and resources matters more than ever</p><p></p><p>Short episode. Real reaction.</p><p></p><p>Read the story that inspired this episode: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.ohioemployerlawblog.com/2026/04/when-workplace-frustration-becomes-five.html" target="_blank">https://www.ohioemployerlawblog.com/2026/04/when-workplace-frustration-becomes-five.html</a></p><p></p><p>Stay connected: </p><p>Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a> </p><p>Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a> </p><p>LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:10:021Workplace Violence: A Primal HR HOT TAKEbonus<![CDATA[Workday AI Hiring Bias and ATS Risks: A Primal HR HOT TAKE]]>Is artificial intelligence shaping hiring decisions more than companies realize?

In this Primal HR Hot Take, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham react to a major legal case involving Workday and what it could mean for the future of hiring.

What we get into:
• How AI is used in applicant tracking systems
• The risks of automated resume screening
• Bias and discrimination concerns
• What job seekers and employers should watch

Short episode. Real reaction.

Stay connected:
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Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com
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]]>ce217537-e381-4a96-a348-d6554d345910Mon, 20 Apr 2026 19:52:20 GMT<p>Is artificial intelligence shaping hiring decisions more than companies realize?</p><p></p><p>In this <b>Primal HR Hot Take</b>, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham react to a major legal case involving Workday and what it could mean for the future of hiring.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• How AI is used in applicant tracking systems<br />• The risks of automated resume screening<br />• Bias and discrimination concerns<br />• What job seekers and employers should watch</p><p></p><p>Short episode. Real reaction.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:08:351Workday AI Hiring Bias and ATS Risks: A Primal HR HOT TAKEbonus<![CDATA[HR Unfiltered: Workplace Pet Peeves & Rapid Fire Questions]]>What happens when HR professionals drop the script and just have some fun?

In this season one finale, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham take a step back from traditional topics and have a candid, fast-paced conversation about the real human side of work.

What we get into:
• Workplace pet peeves and everyday habits
• Return to office perspectives
• Meetings, communication, and what works
• Personal stories and career reflections

Short conversation. Real talk.

Stay connected:
Website: https://primalhrpodcast.com
Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/

]]>16807f1b-ce78-4a7c-bcac-ff556d772a10Mon, 20 Apr 2026 19:47:54 GMT<p>What happens when HR professionals drop the script and just have some fun?</p><p></p><p>In this season one finale, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham take a step back from traditional topics and have a candid, fast-paced conversation about the real human side of work.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• Workplace pet peeves and everyday habits<br />• Return to office perspectives<br />• Meetings, communication, and what works<br />• Personal stories and career reflections</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Real talk.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:17:45111HR Unfiltered: Workplace Pet Peeves & Rapid Fire Questionsfull<![CDATA[What Nobody Tells You About Exit Interviews]]>Do exit interviews really matter, or are they just a formality on the way out the door?

In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham break down how exit interviews and surveys actually work, why employees often hold back honest feedback, and how organizations use that information to improve workplace culture and employee experience.

What we get into:
• Why employees hesitate to be fully honest
• How HR teams use exit feedback
• The value of anonymous exit surveys
• How feedback can lead to meaningful change

Short conversation. Real talk.

Stay connected:
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Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/

]]>516910c3-3bba-4ea8-81e1-172f7c8546d4Mon, 20 Apr 2026 19:44:13 GMT<p>Do exit interviews really matter, or are they just a formality on the way out the door?</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham break down how exit interviews and surveys actually work, why employees often hold back honest feedback, and how organizations use that information to improve workplace culture and employee experience.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• Why employees hesitate to be fully honest<br />• How HR teams use exit feedback<br />• The value of anonymous exit surveys<br />• How feedback can lead to meaningful change</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Real talk.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:12:5019What Nobody Tells You About Exit Interviewsfull<![CDATA[Is HR the Villain? The Truth About HR’s Role in the Workplace]]>HR often gets labeled the villain.

\In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham unpack where that perception comes from and what HR is actually doing behind the scenes.

What we get into:
• Why HR has that reputation
• The tough conversations HR handles
• The work employees do not see
• The balance between people and business

Short conversation. Honest look.

Stay connected:
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Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com
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]]>e2bc0799-9af9-41b0-a15e-7b57e7aec418Mon, 20 Apr 2026 19:38:25 GMT<p>HR often gets labeled the villain.</p><p></p><p>\In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham unpack where that perception comes from and what HR is actually doing behind the scenes.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• Why HR has that reputation<br />• The tough conversations HR handles<br />• The work employees do not see<br />• The balance between people and business</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Honest look.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:15:5518Is HR the Villain? The Truth About HR’s Role in the Workplacefull<![CDATA[AI in HR: Guardrails, Bias, and the Risks We Can’t Ignore]]>AI can be powerful, but it comes with real risks.

In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham take a closer look at where AI falls short and why HR leaders need to move thoughtfully when bringing these tools into the workplace.

What we get into:
• How bias and false outputs show up in AI
• Why AI lacks context and nuance
• The risks of overreliance
• Why guardrails, policies, and training matter

Short conversation. Real talk.

Stay connected:
Website: https://primalhrpodcast.com
Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/

]]>af557545-e68a-4245-94f8-e3103522cbe0Mon, 20 Apr 2026 18:54:18 GMT<p>AI can be powerful, but it comes with real risks.</p><p>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham take a closer look at where AI falls short and why HR leaders need to move thoughtfully when bringing these tools into the workplace.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• How bias and false outputs show up in AI<br />• Why AI lacks context and nuance<br />• The risks of overreliance<br />• Why guardrails, policies, and training matter</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Real talk.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:19:0217AI in HR: Guardrails, Bias, and the Risks We Can’t Ignorefull<![CDATA[AI in HR: Smart Uses, Real Risks]]>AI is already showing up in HR workflows.

In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore how teams are actually using AI, where it can help, and where caution matters most.

What we get into:
• Real-world AI use cases in HR
• Writing and analysis with AI tools
• Common risks and limitations
• How to use AI responsibly


Short conversation. Practical takeaways.


Stay connected:
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Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/

]]>3d5b7596-f0a2-4caa-b637-b78d3ee30e2cMon, 20 Apr 2026 18:50:57 GMT<p>AI is already showing up in HR workflows.</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore how teams are actually using AI, where it can help, and where caution matters most.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• Real-world AI use cases in HR<br />• Writing and analysis with AI tools<br />• Common risks and limitations<br />• How to use AI responsibly</p><p><br />Short conversation. Practical takeaways.</p><p><br /><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:18:1716AI in HR: Smart Uses, Real Risksfull<![CDATA[The Loneliness Epidemic at Work: Why “Squishy HR” Is a Business Imperative]]>Loneliness is showing up in the workplace more than we talk about.

In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore how isolation and mental health are impacting employees, and what leaders and HR teams can do to build real connection and support.

What we get into:
• Why loneliness is rising at work
• The impact of remote and hybrid environments
• What EAPs are and how they help
• How connection and community improve performance

Short conversation. Important topic.

Stay connected:
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Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/

]]>539899a6-17e5-4bb9-a38e-9c6df4d05ba1Mon, 20 Apr 2026 18:47:29 GMT<p>Loneliness is showing up in the workplace more than we talk about.</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore how isolation and mental health are impacting employees, and what leaders and HR teams can do to build real connection and support.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• Why loneliness is rising at work<br />• The impact of remote and hybrid environments<br />• What EAPs are and how they help<br />• How connection and community improve performance</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Important topic.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:22:3815The Loneliness Epidemic at Work: Why “Squishy HR” Is a Business Imperativefull<![CDATA[Networking Without the Ick: How to Connect With People]]>Networking does not have to feel awkward or transactional.

In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham break down how to build real connections in a way that feels natural, human, and actually effective.

What we get into:
• Why most outreach gets ignored
• How to start real conversations
• Human-first LinkedIn outreach
• Common networking mistakes to avoid

Short conversation. Real talk.

Stay connected:
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Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/

]]>314ad25f-65d9-4263-8117-eae5686aae54Mon, 20 Apr 2026 18:43:38 GMT<p>Networking does not have to feel awkward or transactional.</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham break down how to build real connections in a way that feels natural, human, and actually effective.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• Why most outreach gets ignored<br />• How to start real conversations<br />• Human-first LinkedIn outreach<br />• Common networking mistakes to avoid</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Real talk.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:16:5514Networking Without the Ick: How to Connect With Peoplefull<![CDATA[Job Hunting in 2026: Why Referrals Beat Resumes]]>The job market isn’t what it used to be. Applying online is not enough anymore.

In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham break down what is really happening behind the scenes, from overwhelmed recruiters to AI-driven screening, and why networking still matters more than ever.

What we get into:
• Why online applications are not working
• How hiring actually happens today
• The role of referrals and relationships
• How to stand out in a crowded market

Short conversation. Real talk.

Stay connected:
Website: https://primalhrpodcast.com
Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/

]]>3dd9ad50-c585-4b1c-9839-daa57187daaeMon, 20 Apr 2026 18:39:09 GMT<p>The job market isn’t what it used to be. Applying online is not enough anymore.</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham break down what is really happening behind the scenes, from overwhelmed recruiters to AI-driven screening, and why networking still matters more than ever.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• Why online applications are not working<br />• How hiring actually happens today<br />• The role of referrals and relationships<br />• How to stand out in a crowded market</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Real talk.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:19:0813Job Hunting in 2026: Why Referrals Beat Resumesfull<![CDATA[SHRM’s $11.5M Lawsuit: A Primal HR HOT TAKE]]>A major HR organization is facing a major credibility moment.

In this Primal HR Hot Take, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham react to SHRM’s $11.5 million lawsuit and what it reveals about leadership, culture, and accountability inside the very organization meant to set the standard.

What we get into:
• The details behind the lawsuit
• The gap between standards and reality
• Leadership accountability and culture breakdown
• What this means for HR credibility going forward

Short episode. Real reaction.

Stay connected:
Website: https://primalhrpodcast.com
Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/

]]>cd4917ac-da9d-4461-9272-2f9700cb5ff6Mon, 20 Apr 2026 18:34:23 GMT<p>A major HR organization is facing a major credibility moment.</p><p></p><p>In this <b>Primal HR Hot Take</b>, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham react to SHRM’s $11.5 million lawsuit and what it reveals about leadership, culture, and accountability inside the very organization meant to set the standard.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• The details behind the lawsuit<br />• The gap between standards and reality<br />• Leadership accountability and culture breakdown<br />• What this means for HR credibility going forward</p><p></p><p>Short episode. Real reaction.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:14:461SHRM’s $11.5M Lawsuit: A Primal HR HOT TAKEbonus<![CDATA[Return to Office: What Actually Works]]>Beyond the headlines and frustration around return-to-office mandates, what actually works?

In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham shift the conversation toward practical solutions — from flexibility and commuter support to workplace policies that put people first.

What we get into:
• What makes RTO more sustainable
• The role of flexibility in workplace policy
• How companies can better support employees
• Real-world ideas that actually improve the experience

Short conversation. Practical takeaways.

Stay connected:
Website: https://primalhrpodcast.com
Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/

]]>ded086b6-1971-4c71-8a7a-dddf555b23d8Mon, 20 Apr 2026 18:21:20 GMT<p>Beyond the headlines and frustration around return-to-office mandates, what actually works?</p><p></p><p>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham shift the conversation toward practical solutions — from flexibility and commuter support to workplace policies that put people first.</p><p></p><p><b>What we get into:</b><br />• What makes RTO more sustainable<br />• The role of flexibility in workplace policy<br />• How companies can better support employees<br />• Real-world ideas that actually improve the experience</p><p></p><p>Short conversation. Practical takeaways.</p><p></p><p><b>Stay connected:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">https://primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a><br />LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/</a></p>no00:18:5112Return to Office: What Actually Worksfull<![CDATA[Return to Office: Why It’s Failing (and What HR Isn’t Saying Out Loud)]]>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore why return-to-office mandates are failing, how they impact employee experience, and what HR leaders need to consider when shaping RTO policies that actually work.

Duration: 00:16:24

Stay Connected

Website: primalhrpodcast.com

LinkedIn: @primalhrpodcast

Email: primalhrpodcast@gmail.com

]]>6c5b90dc-cba0-459c-881c-73656e0cbc27Mon, 20 Apr 2026 18:06:39 GMT<p>In this episode, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham explore why return-to-office mandates are failing, how they impact employee experience, and what HR leaders need to consider when shaping RTO policies that actually work.</p><p></p><p>Duration: 00:16:24</p><h4><b>Stay Connected</b></h4><p>Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">primalhrpodcast.com</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast/" target="_blank">@primalhrpodcast</a></p><p>Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:primalhrpodcast@gmail.com" target="_blank">primalhrpodcast@gmail.com</a></p>no00:16:2511Return to Office: Why It’s Failing (and What HR Isn’t Saying Out Loud)full<![CDATA[ Primal HR Pilot: Real People, Real Talk, Real HR]]>Here's the updated version:

Welcome to the Primal HR pilot! Hosts Terry Smith (HR leader) and Leslie Lulham (People First strategist) introduce the show's mission: honest conversations about HR, leadership, and workplace culture—without the corporate mask.

In this episode, you'll hear what "Primal HR" means, why HR often gets a bad reputation, and who this podcast is for: HR professionals, managers, and anyone navigating workplace challenges. Terry and Leslie explain their approach to pulling back the curtain on what really happens behind the scenes when work gets complicated.

Topics covered: • What "Primal HR" means and why it matters • Why HR is often misunderstood • The emotional reality of HR work • What listeners can expect: 15-20 minute episodes on real workplace issues • Coming next: Return to Office (RTO) mandates

Connect with us: Website: primalhrpodcast.com Email: hello@primalhrpodcast.com Instagram & Facebook: @PrimalHRPodcast LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast

Real people. Real talk. Real HR.

]]>892310b1-f15b-4d51-97f6-897909f05af9Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:53:59 GMT<p><b>Here's the updated version:</b></p><hr /><p>Welcome to the Primal HR pilot! Hosts Terry Smith (HR leader) and Leslie Lulham (People First strategist) introduce the show's mission: honest conversations about HR, leadership, and workplace culture—without the corporate mask.</p><p></p><p>In this episode, you'll hear what "Primal HR" means, why HR often gets a bad reputation, and who this podcast is for: HR professionals, managers, and anyone navigating workplace challenges. Terry and Leslie explain their approach to pulling back the curtain on what really happens behind the scenes when work gets complicated.</p><p></p><p><b>Topics covered:</b> • What "Primal HR" means and why it matters • Why HR is often misunderstood • The emotional reality of HR work • What listeners can expect: 15-20 minute episodes on real workplace issues • Coming next: Return to Office (RTO) mandates</p><p></p><p><b>Connect with us:</b> Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">primalhrpodcast.com</a> Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:hello@primalhrpodcast.com" target="_blank">hello@primalhrpodcast.com</a> Instagram &amp; Facebook: @PrimalHRPodcast LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast" target="_blank">linkedin.com/company/primalhrpodcast</a></p><p>Real people. Real talk. Real HR.</p>no00:14:411 Primal HR Pilot: Real People, Real Talk, Real HRfull