<![CDATA[The Chaotic Order]]>The Chaotic Order is our attempt to explain and explore the nature of Jesus' body, His church. He established her in perfection. We introduce chaos intentionally or unintentionally because we are flawed. Yet, as His disciples, He calls us back into His perfect order.

Consider JAMES 3:13-18

As disciple of His, we are all part of this order...

James 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom.

Jesus gave us perfection, but people are still fallible and we bring in the chaos through our attitudes and actions. Through our words and our deeds...

James 3:14-16 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast and be false to the truth. This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic. For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice.

Our challenges in the body of Christ, the “called out ones of the Messiah” is to return to the perfect order of Jesus and the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace...

James 3:17-18 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere. And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.


Thank you for engaging with us in our weekly discussion of how all of this presents itself in our modern religious culture.

]]>https://riverside.comRiverside.fm (https://riverside.com)Thu, 28 May 2026 17:27:28 GMTTue, 24 Mar 2026 14:31:06 GMT60Lee<p>The Chaotic Order is our attempt to explain and explore the nature of Jesus' body, His church. He established her in perfection. We introduce chaos intentionally or unintentionally because we are flawed. Yet, as His disciples, He calls us back into His perfect order.<br /><br />Consider JAMES <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRQBC6YefMU&amp;list=PLQFDlLQiIt8-5Uu8xj4p8ZPeC4Xc2TRQx&amp;index=1&amp;t=193s">3:13</a>-18<br /><br />As disciple of His, we are all part of this order...<br /><br />James <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRQBC6YefMU&amp;list=PLQFDlLQiIt8-5Uu8xj4p8ZPeC4Xc2TRQx&amp;index=1&amp;t=193s">3:13</a> Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom.<br /><br />Jesus gave us perfection, but people are still fallible and we bring in the chaos through our attitudes and actions. Through our words and our deeds...<br /><br />James <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRQBC6YefMU&amp;list=PLQFDlLQiIt8-5Uu8xj4p8ZPeC4Xc2TRQx&amp;index=1&amp;t=194s">3:14</a>-16 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast and be false to the truth. This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic. For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice.<br /><br />Our challenges in the body of Christ, the “called out ones of the Messiah” is to return to the perfect order of Jesus and the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace...<br /><br />James <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRQBC6YefMU&amp;list=PLQFDlLQiIt8-5Uu8xj4p8ZPeC4Xc2TRQx&amp;index=1&amp;t=197s">3:17</a>-18 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere. And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.<br /><br /><br />Thank you for engaging with us in our weekly discussion of how all of this presents itself in our modern religious culture.</p>episodicLeeleejrtcoc@gmail.comno<![CDATA[Ep. 10: The Fall]]>What if Genesis 3 is more than just a children’s story?

Join us as we unpack the serpent, the temptation, the curse, and the promise that changed humanity forever—and discover why Genesis 3 still shapes the entire biblical story today.

]]>72c8dc87-32e4-4b35-8de1-94939c2521a9Thu, 28 May 2026 14:29:04 GMT<p>What if Genesis 3 is more than just a children’s story?<br /><br />Join us as we unpack the serpent, the temptation, the curse, and the promise that changed humanity forever—and discover why Genesis 3 still shapes the entire biblical story today.</p>no01:35:00Ep. 10: The Fallfull<![CDATA[Ep. 9: Identifying the One Body of Christ]]>What is the true church of the New Testament? In this episode, we examine what the Bible says about the church Christ built and how believers are added to His body.

We discuss:
• How baptism relates to salvation and entrance into the body of Christ
• The dangers and divisions caused by denominationalism
• Biblical names and descriptions used for the Lord’s church
• The importance of following Scripture rather than human tradition
• God’s desire for unity among believers
• How we can identify the church we read about in the Bible today

Our goal is not to promote a denomination, but to search the Scriptures and understand the church revealed in the New Testament.

If you enjoyed this discussion, make sure to like, subscribe, and share the episode with someone searching for biblical truth.

]]>252dfa16-34c8-45af-b4d7-b539b6b5985aSat, 16 May 2026 01:46:34 GMT<p>What is the true church of the New Testament? In this episode, we examine what the Bible says about the church Christ built and how believers are added to His body.</p><p>We discuss:<br />• How baptism relates to salvation and entrance into the body of Christ<br />• The dangers and divisions caused by denominationalism<br />• Biblical names and descriptions used for the Lord’s church<br />• The importance of following Scripture rather than human tradition<br />• God’s desire for unity among believers<br />• How we can identify the church we read about in the Bible today</p><p>Our goal is not to promote a denomination, but to search the Scriptures and understand the church revealed in the New Testament.</p><p>If you enjoyed this discussion, make sure to like, subscribe, and share the episode with someone searching for biblical truth.</p>no01:30:10Ep. 9: Identifying the One Body of Christfull<![CDATA[Ep. 8: The Church]]>What is the church? 

Seems like an easy question to answer, but what if we have drifted away from what it meant at the birth of the Lord’s church?

Join us as we explore the biblical understanding of the church, its origins, and how man has influenced its modern perception. We delve into the Greek roots of 'ecclesia,' the historical translation choices, and what it truly means to be part of Christ's church today.

]]>408c7a2f-bb07-432d-a193-2be0d1e5a6b9Mon, 11 May 2026 02:47:50 GMT<p>What is the church? </p><p></p><p>Seems like an easy question to answer, but what if we have drifted away from what it meant at the birth of the Lord’s church?</p><p></p><p>Join us as we explore the biblical understanding of the church, its origins, and how man has influenced its modern perception. We delve into the Greek roots of 'ecclesia,' the historical translation choices, and what it truly means to be part of Christ's church today.</p>no00:54:34Ep. 8: The Churchfull<![CDATA[Ep 7: Special Guest: Casey Bearden]]>Special Guest: Casey Bearden

In a culture that increasingly labels masculinity as toxic, what does it actually mean to be a man of God?

Join us for a challenging and timely conversation with Casey Bearden—a close friend, devoted disciple, husband, and father—as we take a serious look at Biblical masculinity. While the world pushes men to redefine or even abandon their role, Scripture calls us to something higher, stronger, and deeply purposeful.

This episode isn’t about cultural trends—it’s about truth.

Together, we examine what it means to lead with conviction, serve with humility, and live with courage in our homes and in the Lord’s church. More importantly, we turn the focus inward, asking the hard questions every Christian man must face:

Are we truly living as God has called us to live?
Are we men of strength and valor?
Or have we quietly settled for less?

If you care about your faith, your family, and your responsibility as a man of God, join us as we challenge ourselves, and all men in the Lord’s Church, to act like men and be mighty men of valor!

]]>34eca1a5-7774-4bce-affe-7859ac383400Fri, 01 May 2026 22:56:19 GMT<p><b>Special Guest: Casey Bearden</b></p><p></p><p>In a culture that increasingly labels masculinity as toxic, what does it actually mean to be a man of God?</p><p></p><p>Join us for a challenging and timely conversation with Casey Bearden—a close friend, devoted disciple, husband, and father—as we take a serious look at Biblical masculinity. While the world pushes men to redefine or even abandon their role, Scripture calls us to something higher, stronger, and deeply purposeful.</p><p></p><p>This episode isn’t about cultural trends—it’s about truth.</p><p>Together, we examine what it means to lead with conviction, serve with humility, and live with courage in our homes and in the Lord’s church. More importantly, we turn the focus inward, asking the hard questions every Christian man must face:</p><p>Are we truly living as God has called us to live?<br /> Are we men of strength and valor?<br /> Or have we quietly settled for less?</p><p></p><p>If you care about your faith, your family, and your responsibility as a man of God, join us as we challenge ourselves, and all men in the Lord’s Church, to act like men and be mighty men of valor!</p>no01:46:14Ep 7: Special Guest: Casey Beardenfull<![CDATA[Ep 6: Bible Stories: Creation]]>You’ve heard the story of creation… but have you really seen it?

In this episode, we revisit one of the most familiar passages in the Bible and take a closer look. We’ll tell the story clearly for those hearing it for the first time, unpack it for those who know it well, and dig deeper into the meaning for those ready to go further.

No matter how many times we have heard a story from the Bible, there is always more to learn.

]]>70c3d710-954e-43d9-afa6-83e0fc874a9dSat, 25 Apr 2026 17:54:35 GMT<p>You’ve heard the story of creation… but have you really seen it?<br /><br />In this episode, we revisit one of the most familiar passages in the Bible and take a closer look. We’ll tell the story clearly for those hearing it for the first time, unpack it for those who know it well, and dig deeper into the meaning for those ready to go further.<br /><br />No matter how many times we have heard a story from the Bible, there is always more to learn.</p>no01:18:11Ep 6: Bible Stories: Creationfull<![CDATA[Ep 5: Special Guest: Jeremy Pate]]>[DISCLAIMER: We apologize for the delay. There were several issues in the production of this video the first time, so we decided it would be best to just redo it. Thank you for your patience, and we hope you enjoy the discussion.]

Most parents and church leaders feel the pressure of raising faithful children in a culture of quick fixes and shallow faith. In this episode, Jeremy Pate challenges the idea that programs and routines are enough, pointing instead to authentic, sincere faith as the foundation for spiritually resilient families.

Drawing from his own journey, Jeremy shares practical insight for parents, youth ministers, and believers who want a deeper impact. We explore why superficial involvement often leads to apathy, how to cultivate sincere faith at home, and why modeling genuine love for the church matters beyond Sunday.

You’ll learn how to help your children handle conflict biblically, build meaningful relationships across generations, and avoid the trap of surface-level religion. This episode is a powerful call to pursue sincerity over perfection and invest in a faith that lasts—shaping not just today, but the future of the church.

Join us as we seek to take a step away from Chaos and into Jesus' Order.

]]>dba72f7b-9eae-4013-b6da-8ed8a7fda3f9Thu, 23 Apr 2026 14:00:22 GMT<p>[DISCLAIMER: We apologize for the delay. There were several issues in the production of this video the first time, so we decided it would be best to just redo it. Thank you for your patience, and we hope you enjoy the discussion.]<br /><br />Most parents and church leaders feel the pressure of raising faithful children in a culture of quick fixes and shallow faith. In this episode, Jeremy Pate challenges the idea that programs and routines are enough, pointing instead to authentic, sincere faith as the foundation for spiritually resilient families.<br /><br />Drawing from his own journey, Jeremy shares practical insight for parents, youth ministers, and believers who want a deeper impact. We explore why superficial involvement often leads to apathy, how to cultivate sincere faith at home, and why modeling genuine love for the church matters beyond Sunday.<br /><br />You’ll learn how to help your children handle conflict biblically, build meaningful relationships across generations, and avoid the trap of surface-level religion. This episode is a powerful call to pursue sincerity over perfection and invest in a faith that lasts—shaping not just today, but the future of the church.<br /><br />Join us as we seek to take a step away from Chaos and into Jesus' Order.</p>no01:55:34Ep 5: Special Guest: Jeremy Patefull<![CDATA[Ep. 4: Good Friday: Tradition Becomes Chaos]]>Is the Bible wrong??

Accepted tradition can, and frequently has, become the source of Chaos in the Body of Christ.

For over 1500 years, it has generally been accepted that since Christ rose from the grave on Sunday, He was crucified on Friday. There is plenty of evidence in the Bible to the contrary.

So, is the Bible wrong, or is tradition wrong? Are we willing to let go of tradition in favor of Biblical truth?

]]>1b57a6a2-f8ac-4a6a-ad86-caeba67d62ccThu, 09 Apr 2026 17:40:14 GMT<p>Is the Bible wrong??<br /><br />Accepted tradition can, and frequently has, become the source of Chaos in the Body of Christ.<br /><br />For over 1500 years, it has generally been accepted that since Christ rose from the grave on Sunday, He was crucified on Friday. There is plenty of evidence in the Bible to the contrary.<br /><br />So, is the Bible wrong, or is tradition wrong? Are we willing to let go of tradition in favor of Biblical truth?</p>no00:49:30Ep. 4: Good Friday: Tradition Becomes Chaosfull<![CDATA[Ep 3: Special Guest: Brandon Edwards]]>The scriptures have always held the answers for us all. Do we have the courage to simply obey?

In a wide-ranging conversation, Brandon Edwards offers his insights and anecdotes as a Christian man, husband, dad and minister.

Brandon is the Campus Minister with Buckeyes4Christ in Columbus, Ohio and co-host with Jovan Payes of "Street Saints" podcast.

]]>43ee8a2b-f54b-4e8e-b5a6-fd009287b484Fri, 27 Mar 2026 22:49:16 GMT<p>The scriptures have always held the answers for us all. Do we have the courage to simply obey?<br /><br />In a wide-ranging conversation, Brandon Edwards offers his insights and anecdotes as a Christian man, husband, dad and minister.<br /><br />Brandon is the Campus Minister with Buckeyes4Christ in Columbus, Ohio and co-host with Jovan Payes of "Street Saints" podcast.</p>no01:59:53Ep 3: Special Guest: Brandon Edwardsfull<![CDATA[Ep 2: Post-Pandemic Order]]>In our first episode, Post Pandemic Chaos, we took an honest look at the disruption, decline, and disorientation many churches experienced in the wake of Covid. But identifying the problem is only the beginning.

In this episode, we turn our focus to the solution.

What does it actually look like to return to the order Jesus intended for His church? Not a return to pre-pandemic routines, traditions, or cultural comfort—but a restoration of Christ-centered priorities, practices, and purpose.

We explore:

  • The difference between cultural Christianity and committed discipleship
  • Why structure and order matter in the life of the church
  • How Jesus designed His church to function—even in seasons of disruption
  • Practical steps to begin restoring spiritual clarity, leadership, and mission


This episode is about rebuilding—but not from nostalgia. From Scripture. From conviction. From Christ.

If the chaos revealed cracks in the foundation, this is where we begin to repair them—according to Jesus’ design.

From confusion to clarity. From disorder to design. From chaos to Christ-centered order.

]]>170dcf12-cfe7-4ad9-8926-9b32476fd72aTue, 24 Mar 2026 14:33:33 GMT<p>In our first episode, Post Pandemic Chaos, we took an honest look at the disruption, decline, and disorientation many churches experienced in the wake of Covid. But identifying the problem is only the beginning.<br /><br />In this episode, we turn our focus to the solution.<br /><br />What does it actually look like to return to the order Jesus intended for His church? Not a return to pre-pandemic routines, traditions, or cultural comfort—but a restoration of Christ-centered priorities, practices, and purpose.<br /><br />We explore:<br /></p><ul><li>The difference between cultural Christianity and committed discipleship<br /></li><li>Why structure and order matter in the life of the church<br /></li><li>How Jesus designed His church to function—even in seasons of disruption<br /></li><li>Practical steps to begin restoring spiritual clarity, leadership, and mission<br /></li></ul><p><br />This episode is about rebuilding—but not from nostalgia. From Scripture. From conviction. From Christ.<br /><br />If the chaos revealed cracks in the foundation, this is where we begin to repair them—according to Jesus’ design.<br /><br />From confusion to clarity. From disorder to design. From chaos to Christ-centered order.</p>no00:59:35Ep 2: Post-Pandemic Orderfull<![CDATA[Ep 1: Post-Pandemic Chaos]]>In our premier episode of The Chaotic Order Podcast, we explore the current state of the church ("the called out ones" or "called out assembly") our Savior Jesus died and rose from death to build. In the chaos of the post-pandemic era, what challenges do we face?

]]>a2a0f0ed-c5bd-40b2-9d91-71bcb1e484ddTue, 24 Mar 2026 14:32:27 GMT<p>In our premier episode of The Chaotic Order Podcast, we explore the current state of the church ("the called out ones" or "called out assembly") our Savior Jesus died and rose from death to build. In the chaos of the post-pandemic era, what challenges do we face?</p>no00:55:52Ep 1: Post-Pandemic Chaosfull