<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Into The Grey Podcast]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Two friends ditch their world of black and white and embrace the nuance of life. The Into the Grey podcast discusses all the areas of life where it's not what's "right or wrong", but it's What's "right" for you and "right" for me.</p>]]></description><link>Into-the-grey.com</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 28 May 2026 23:48:16 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/bRukRc4L.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></author><pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2026 19:27:57 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Saundra and Kim]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Relationships]]></category><itunes:author>Saundra and Kim</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Two friends ditch their world of black and white and embrace the nuance of life. The Into the Grey podcast discusses all the areas of life where it&apos;s not what&apos;s &quot;right or wrong&quot;, but it&apos;s What&apos;s &quot;right&quot; for you and &quot;right&quot; for me.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Saundra and Kim</itunes:name><itunes:email>saundra@spacetoshift.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"><itunes:category text="Relationships"/></itunes:category><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/logos/a283b725-bc10-41fb-b6e2-61a50eef5089.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[ITG Hot Take: Can You Outgrow Love?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>HOT TAKE: Love is NOT always enough! </p><p>Some people love each other deeply...and are still completely wrong for each other. </p><p></p><p>What do you think? Can you outgrow love? </p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com" target="_blank">TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com</a></p><p></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">e8ec5f4d-a738-42bb-954a-4d41988df7b3</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 22:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/146c4f4f885fa024d6f446fa4c46656744ae53bad5a1c64603fc235366af354b/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJlOGVjNWY0ZC1hNzM4LTQyYmItOTU0YS00ZDQxOTg4ZGY3YjMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NjU4NjZhYy1hM2FkLTRhNzEtOTFmMi01ZTcxNWY5NmFjYTUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTE3ODcyOGVmMmI4MTRjZTFjY2ExN2UiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmExMzcxMGUyM2FhYWQ4OTU4YTBjOWY4L3NhdW5kcmFzLXN0dWRpby00Umhvai1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTUtMjRfXzIzLTQzLTQyLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="8902678" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/episodes/e8ec5f4d-a738-42bb-954a-4d41988df7b3/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;HOT TAKE: Love is NOT always enough! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some people love each other deeply...and are still completely wrong for each other. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What do you think? Can you outgrow love? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;mailto:TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:04:38</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/logos/a283b725-bc10-41fb-b6e2-61a50eef5089.png"/><itunes:title>ITG Hot Take: Can You Outgrow Love?</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Before You Catch Feelings, Ask This...]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Some of y’all are bonding over vibes instead of VALUES.</p><p></p><p>In this episode of Into the Grey, we unpack the questions you should ask BEFORE you commit and we even share a few of our dating/talking stage horror stories. </p><p></p><p>Attraction alone will absolutely ruin your life, tune in to make sure you know what to ask to ensure compatibility and real quality chemistry!!</p><p></p><p>#DatingTalk #TalkingStage #IntoTheGreyPodcast #ModernDating #RelationshipPodcast</p><p><br /></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">36460982-162d-4ed9-90f2-67a279dcb95c</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 20:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/65de8a99cc7b58489fb2781b2a841882c7ec23465d6fac21ac8060dea469b6fe/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIzNjQ2MDk4Mi0xNjJkLTRlZDktOTBmMi02N2EyNzlkY2I5NWMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NjU4NjZhYy1hM2FkLTRhNzEtOTFmMi01ZTcxNWY5NmFjYTUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTE3ODcyOGVmMmI4MTRjZTFjY2ExN2UiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEwYTFlZWM3ZDkyMThiYWQ3YmI0NGMyL3NhdW5kcmFzLXN0dWRpby00Umhvai1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTUtMTdfXzIyLTItNTIubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="65308778" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/episodes/36460982-162d-4ed9-90f2-67a279dcb95c/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Some of y’all are bonding over vibes instead of VALUES.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Into the Grey, we unpack the questions you should ask BEFORE you commit and we even share a few of our dating/talking stage horror stories. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Attraction alone will absolutely ruin your life, tune in to make sure you know what to ask to ensure compatibility and real quality chemistry!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#DatingTalk #TalkingStage #IntoTheGreyPodcast #ModernDating #RelationshipPodcast&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:34:01</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/logos/a283b725-bc10-41fb-b6e2-61a50eef5089.png"/><itunes:title>Before You Catch Feelings, Ask This...</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[ITG Hot Takes: Is Submission Toxic?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Is submission toxic? Based on their cultural background or experiences with misunderstandings, Saundra and Kim break down how submission CAN BE toxic but it doesn’t have to be! They lean on the side of caution but want to hear from you! Is submission toxic or necessary for a healthy relationship? What ways have you experienced submission, good or bad? </p><p></p><p>Share your experiences in the chat or email your story to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com" target="_blank">TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com</a>. </p><p></p><p>Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://uppbeat.io/t/dope-cat/carefree-sunbeams" target="_blank">https://uppbeat.io/t/dope-cat/carefree-sunbeams</a></p><p>License code: WXROQ9FCKV9OYRVK</p><p><br /></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">5701f381-6c90-4e72-abc7-aa3219227413</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2026 18:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/89e5182f913889ba5419fa9ec7f2b483165893512fa357366c1de43482ccf81d/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1NzAxZjM4MS02YzkwLTRlNzItYWJjNy1hYTMyMTkyMjc0MTMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NjU4NjZhYy1hM2FkLTRhNzEtOTFmMi01ZTcxNWY5NmFjYTUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTE3ODcyOGVmMmI4MTRjZTFjY2ExN2UiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEwMGI4ZDk2MmVhNDBmMDQ1MWQzMGE3L3NhdW5kcmFzLXN0dWRpby00Umhvai1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTUtMTBfXzE4LTU2LTU2Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="17541895" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/episodes/5701f381-6c90-4e72-abc7-aa3219227413/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Is submission toxic? Based on their cultural background or experiences with misunderstandings, Saundra and Kim break down how submission CAN BE toxic but it doesn’t have to be! They lean on the side of caution but want to hear from you! Is submission toxic or necessary for a healthy relationship? What ways have you experienced submission, good or bad? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Share your experiences in the chat or email your story to &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;mailto:TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://uppbeat.io/t/dope-cat/carefree-sunbeams&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://uppbeat.io/t/dope-cat/carefree-sunbeams&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;License code: WXROQ9FCKV9OYRVK&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:09:08</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/logos/a283b725-bc10-41fb-b6e2-61a50eef5089.png"/><itunes:title>ITG Hot Takes: Is Submission Toxic?</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Body Knowledge - Sex, Hygiene & Exploration]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever wondered why so many women (and men) are confused about the feminine body?? In this episode of Into the Grey, Saundra and Kim dive into their background in sexual education, body awareness and personal hygiene. They talk about the impact of cultural and religious influences on their own exploration and expression and the importance of understanding and exploring one’s sexual health, intimacy and satisfaction. They share the empowering truth of knowing one’s self!</p><p><br /></p><p>Do you have your own story of living unaware of your body? Let us help take away the stigma of talking about and taking care of our bodies! Share your experience in the chat or shoot us a message at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com" target="_blank">TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com</a></p><p><br /></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">e91904c7-3030-484d-ae83-74cef699df98</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2026 00:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/1ecaa1b4c8a5ff78ce3ca9edc11811224e0154799ac38a0d85ac683bf1bee077/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJlOTE5MDRjNy0zMDMwLTQ4NGQtYWU4My03NGNlZjY5OWRmOTgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NjU4NjZhYy1hM2FkLTRhNzEtOTFmMi01ZTcxNWY5NmFjYTUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTE3ODcyOGVmMmI4MTRjZTFjY2ExN2UiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjlmNzkyMGJiNjliZTBhZjAzZjBlYjI3L3NhdW5kcmFzLXN0dWRpby00Umhvai1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTUtM19fMjAtMjAtNTkubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="86815286" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/episodes/e91904c7-3030-484d-ae83-74cef699df98/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Have you ever wondered why so many women (and men) are confused about the feminine body?? In this episode of Into the Grey, Saundra and Kim dive into their background in sexual education, body awareness and personal hygiene. They talk about the impact of cultural and religious influences on their own exploration and expression and the importance of understanding and exploring one’s sexual health, intimacy and satisfaction. They share the empowering truth of knowing one’s self!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do you have your own story of living unaware of your body? Let us help take away the stigma of talking about and taking care of our bodies! Share your experience in the chat or shoot us a message at &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;mailto:TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:45:13</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/logos/a283b725-bc10-41fb-b6e2-61a50eef5089.png"/><itunes:title>Body Knowledge - Sex, Hygiene &amp; Exploration</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[ITG Hot Takes: Faith Taught Me This, Life Taught Me That]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Hot Takes with ITG are just that, quick, rapid fire questions/topics where we get into one idea real quick and invite you into the conversation via our live chat and comments section! </p><p></p><p>In this hot take, we breakdown and compare the ideas learned in faith spaces to those learned through life experiences. We get in under 10 minutes, we get into gender roles, personal connection to God and the importance of community and love! </p><p></p><p>Are you living in the grey? Share your experience in the chat or email your story to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com" target="_blank">TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com</a></p><p><br /></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">8e839054-ebc0-4419-8e84-be4f66733721</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 19:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/61e566ca09970298098059d85ca8cd28eea53b24ef4316c658acf16728184450/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI4ZTgzOTA1NC1lYmMwLTQ0MTktOGU4NC1iZTRmNjY3MzM3MjEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NjU4NjZhYy1hM2FkLTRhNzEtOTFmMi01ZTcxNWY5NmFjYTUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTE3ODcyOGVmMmI4MTRjZTFjY2ExN2UiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjllYTMyMjBmMDU0YjJkNmZiMDYyY2M4L3NhdW5kcmFzLXN0dWRpby00Umhvai1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTQtMjNfXzE2LTUyLTE2Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="11774894" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/episodes/8e839054-ebc0-4419-8e84-be4f66733721/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Hot Takes with ITG are just that, quick, rapid fire questions/topics where we get into one idea real quick and invite you into the conversation via our live chat and comments section! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this hot take, we breakdown and compare the ideas learned in faith spaces to those learned through life experiences. We get in under 10 minutes, we get into gender roles, personal connection to God and the importance of community and love! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Are you living in the grey? Share your experience in the chat or email your story to &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;mailto:TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:06:08</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/logos/a283b725-bc10-41fb-b6e2-61a50eef5089.png"/><itunes:title>ITG Hot Takes: Faith Taught Me This, Life Taught Me That</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Match at Your Own Risk: Dating with  Children]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode of Into the Grey, Saundra and Kim consider what it’s like to date with kids. Kim digs in deep to what life would be like if she dated someone with kids and Saundra shares her boundaries and expectations for the “special” someone. The challenges they each face are complex, diverse and heavily influenced by age, experience and relationship desires. </p><p><br /></p><p>So the question is, would YOU date someone with children?? How do your children affect your dating experience? Leave your experience in the chat or email your story to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com" target="_blank">TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com</a></p><p><br /></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">bb7f84c7-3a79-44d9-8c6e-9a2ed77572bb</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2026 03:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/43804c2b48a6e759aaf94d486994e336238043d626e680dbdde49ed86c32a62f/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJiYjdmODRjNy0zYTc5LTQ0ZDktOGM2ZS05YTJlZDc3NTcyYmIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NjU4NjZhYy1hM2FkLTRhNzEtOTFmMi01ZTcxNWY5NmFjYTUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTE3ODcyOGVmMmI4MTRjZTFjY2ExN2UiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjllNTAwZmEzZGFhZjI3YTFkNDQyZGIzL3NhdW5kcmFzLXN0dWRpby00Umhvai1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTQtMTlfXzE4LTIxLTE0Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="41408827" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/episodes/bb7f84c7-3a79-44d9-8c6e-9a2ed77572bb/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;On this episode of Into the Grey, Saundra and Kim consider what it’s like to date with kids. Kim digs in deep to what life would be like if she dated someone with kids and Saundra shares her boundaries and expectations for the “special” someone. The challenges they each face are complex, diverse and heavily influenced by age, experience and relationship desires. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So the question is, would YOU date someone with children?? How do your children affect your dating experience? Leave your experience in the chat or email your story to &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;mailto:TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:28:45</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/logos/a283b725-bc10-41fb-b6e2-61a50eef5089.png"/><itunes:title>Match at Your Own Risk: Dating with  Children</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Am I the Drama? Petty Confessions]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Are we the drama? Saundra and Kim talk about petty behavior, explore its impact on relationships, and even share a few personal experiences. Does the art of pettiness evolve with time?  Is it a skill to be honed? Let us know your thoughts in the comments! </p><p></p><p></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">86c7058c-88cd-4c1d-a4b5-7f9c0abbd79b</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 07:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/5175738e600577568c0fed9c4ad6bb8127ed3c0604641824c20148e75bb65bc0/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI4NmM3MDU4Yy04OGNkLTRjMWQtYTRiNS03ZjljMGFiYmQ3OWIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NjU4NjZhYy1hM2FkLTRhNzEtOTFmMi01ZTcxNWY5NmFjYTUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTE3ODcyOGVmMmI4MTRjZTFjY2ExN2UiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjlkMzE3NzJlYmJhMTk4ODhlZTkwMjJmL3NhdW5kcmFzLXN0dWRpby00Umhvai1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTQtNl9fNC0xNi0xOC5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="47236850" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/episodes/86c7058c-88cd-4c1d-a4b5-7f9c0abbd79b/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Are we the drama? Saundra and Kim talk about petty behavior, explore its impact on relationships, and even share a few personal experiences. Does the art of pettiness evolve with time?  Is it a skill to be honed? Let us know your thoughts in the comments! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:32:48</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/logos/a283b725-bc10-41fb-b6e2-61a50eef5089.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Am I the Drama? 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Saundra shares the unique experience of raising boys and girls, while challenging their traditional role expectations and embracing their full personhood. </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">c84dfcc3-f21a-4d07-b7ed-2e2c2be5ed5a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2026 04:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/7fa30707b0478c6852a9fb560ba6eab26570a48cb9df06f211bf82fbecf5a090/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJjODRkZmNjMy1mMjFhLTRkMDctYjdlZC0yZTJjMmJlNWVkNWEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NjU4NjZhYy1hM2FkLTRhNzEtOTFmMi01ZTcxNWY5NmFjYTUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTE3ODcyOGVmMmI4MTRjZTFjY2ExN2UiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjljMGJhODk4Nzc1Yjg5NDljMTExNDY1L3NhdW5kcmFzLXN0dWRpby00Umhvai1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTMtMjNfXzQtNTktNS5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="74602100" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/episodes/c84dfcc3-f21a-4d07-b7ed-2e2c2be5ed5a/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Into the Grey, Saundra and Kim discuss societal expectations and gender roles imposed on women and men, as well as the impact of these expectations on personal identity and self-expression. Saundra shares the unique experience of raising boys and girls, while challenging their traditional role expectations and embracing their full personhood. &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:51:48</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/logos/a283b725-bc10-41fb-b6e2-61a50eef5089.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Pass the Offering, Not the Patriarchy - Gender Roles &amp; Expectations</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Art of Flirting - Do you do it?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Into the Grey, Saundra and Kim explore the nuances of flirting, from the awkwardness and anxiety to the intentional and even detached aspects of it. They share their personal experiences and observations, highlighting the complexity of flirtatious interactions and the importance of confidence and non-verbal communication.</p><p></p><p></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">cf736c5b-3560-4afb-a7ee-f2b23bee2875</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 23:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/2cdee7349ffe3eca5801827612aa956c044a162208f603004909afa9f557d3a5/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJjZjczNmM1Yi0zNTYwLTRhZmItYTdlZS1mMmIyM2JlZTI4NzUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NjU4NjZhYy1hM2FkLTRhNzEtOTFmMi01ZTcxNWY5NmFjYTUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTE3ODcyOGVmMmI4MTRjZTFjY2ExN2UiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjlhZDliODlkOGI0ODU2ZmI3OTAzNWU1L3NhdW5kcmFzLXN0dWRpby00Umhvai1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTMtOF9fMTYtNTMtNDUubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="54646012" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/episodes/cf736c5b-3560-4afb-a7ee-f2b23bee2875/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Into the Grey, Saundra and Kim explore the nuances of flirting, from the awkwardness and anxiety to the intentional and even detached aspects of it. They share their personal experiences and observations, highlighting the complexity of flirtatious interactions and the importance of confidence and non-verbal communication.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:37:57</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/logos/a283b725-bc10-41fb-b6e2-61a50eef5089.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:title>The Art of Flirting - Do you do it?</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[When Is It the End? ]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>70 % of divorces are initiated by women...but nobody talks about <b><i>why!</i></b></p><p></p><p>In this episode, we unpack the reality of a woman's role in marriage, the quiet erosion that happens when consideration disappears, and what partnership CAN look like if evolved. </p><p></p><p>We discuss the pressure to "make it work," the weight of religious and societal expectations, and the shame that keeps so many women silent and stuck. </p><p></p><p>This isn't marriage bashing. This is an honest take on complacency, trusting your gut, and choosing yourself when forever stops feeling safe. </p><p></p><p>The end of a marriage isn't failure, for some, it's freedom. </p><p></p><p>If you've ever wrestled with staying, leaving, or finding yourself again...this one is for you. </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">21c93c2d-e93c-400d-88b8-10001b15176c</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 04:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/081c19bf7432d2e209f07bed5e2df141bc9a7d16205ef32bd0d702f88a8c39c2/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIyMWM5M2MyZC1lOTNjLTQwMGQtODhiOC0xMDAwMWIxNTE3NmMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NjU4NjZhYy1hM2FkLTRhNzEtOTFmMi01ZTcxNWY5NmFjYTUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTE3ODcyOGVmMmI4MTRjZTFjY2ExN2UiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk5YmZjY2ZiZmIxNzFiYTAwOWM2NTBhL3NhdW5kcmFzLXN0dWRpby00Umhvai1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTItMjNfXzgtNy01OS5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="72024128" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;70 % of divorces are initiated by women...but nobody talks about &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;why!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, we unpack the reality of a woman&apos;s role in marriage, the quiet erosion that happens when consideration disappears, and what partnership CAN look like if evolved. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We discuss the pressure to &quot;make it work,&quot; the weight of religious and societal expectations, and the shame that keeps so many women silent and stuck. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This isn&apos;t marriage bashing. This is an honest take on complacency, trusting your gut, and choosing yourself when forever stops feeling safe. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The end of a marriage isn&apos;t failure, for some, it&apos;s freedom. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you&apos;ve ever wrestled with staying, leaving, or finding yourself again...this one is for you. &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:50:01</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/965866ac-a3ad-4a71-91f2-5e715f96aca5/logos/a283b725-bc10-41fb-b6e2-61a50eef5089.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:title>When Is It the End? </itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Red, Green and Grey Flags]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Into the Grey, Saundra and Kim explore 'love in the grey' and the challenges of navigating relationships in a nuanced space. They explore the definition of love and the differentiation between platonic and romantic love, and the identification of red flags in relationships.  </p><p></p><p>Have a topic you want us to chat about? Email us at TalktoUs@into-the-grey.com</p><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 Embracing Love in the Gray</li><li>20:25 Defining Love and Expectations</li><li>26:23 Identifying Red Flags in Relationships</li><li>33:39 Losing and Finding Self in Relationships</li><li>40:08 Maintaining Autonomy in Love</li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">27226e60-f46f-44fd-b294-1efb2a6e035a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2026 03:13:23 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/122205bce2fe6ee8f59b51cc14aec6effd6046cc449f4328800099083debd19b/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIyNzIyNmU2MC1mNDZmLTQ0ZmQtYjI5NC0xZWZiMmE2ZTAzNWEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NjU4NjZhYy1hM2FkLTRhNzEtOTFmMi01ZTcxNWY5NmFjYTUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTE3ODcyOGVmMmI4MTRjZTFjY2ExN2UiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk4YmVkYTliY2VhYzQ0ZDk1NDMzNDE4L3NhdW5kcmFzLXN0dWRpby00Umhvai1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTItMTFfXzMtNDctNS5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="56415233" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Into the Grey, Saundra and Kim explore &apos;love in the grey&apos; and the challenges of navigating relationships in a nuanced space. They explore the definition of love and the differentiation between platonic and romantic love, and the identification of red flags in relationships.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Have a topic you want us to chat about? 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How do belief systems impact emotional vulnerability, gender roles, and respecting different perspectives. Kim and Saundra highlight the significance of questioning established belief systems and loosening our ties to "black and white" living and embracing the "grey" space!</p><p></p><p>Send your questions and convo suggestions to TalkToUs@into-the-grey.com</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">9ae43140-e247-4c7a-ab99-c0687bbceab8</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Saundra and Kim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2026 20:48:06 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/fe3e59a431fd8ef08e4b3217af3eae9da99b00a58e94c160c1d37eb59f9f7271/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI5YWU0MzE0MC1lMjQ3LTRjN2EtYWI5OS1jMDY4N2JiY2VhYjgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5NjU4NjZhYy1hM2FkLTRhNzEtOTFmMi01ZTcxNWY5NmFjYTUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTE3ODcyOGVmMmI4MTRjZTFjY2ExN2UiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk4MmRjMGQzNWRmMDhmZTdkZDc0NTU1L3NhdW5kcmFzLXN0dWRpby00Umhvai1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTItNF9fNi00MS0zMy5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="46959743" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Saundra and Kim explore the theme of living in the grey, discussing the challenges of navigating relationships with differing beliefs and the evolution of personal identity. 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