As It Turned Out

ENZO ABBOTT

Pannonica Z Maruna — Mon, 21 Sep 2026 03:00:00 GMT

this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Enzo Abbott: a CU Boulder alum whose career took him from selling polos at Ralph Lauren to building a career in enterprise sales at some of the world’s largest technology companies.

We talk about how his early experiences in retail prepared him for sales, the unexpected connection that helped him break into tech, and the lessons he learned along the way at NetSuite, Salesforce, and Oracle. Enzo also shares why curiosity and relationships matter, what it means to trust the process, and how staying open to opportunity can lead you somewhere you never planned.

Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.

TODD DUTKIN

Pannonica Z Maruna — Sun, 23 Aug 2026 19:12:39 GMT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Todd Dutkin: a business leader, entrepreneur, and professor whose career has been shaped by curiosity, growth, and the power of awe.

From traveling the world at a young age to helping build a small food company into an industry leader, we talk about the unexpected experiences that shaped Todd’s journey, his approach to leadership and entrepreneurship, and why embracing the unknown can lead you somewhere better than you planned.

Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.

TANYA FIRST

Pannonica Z Maruna — Mon, 29 Jun 2026 23:00:00 GMT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Tanya First, Vice President of Field Operations at Buffalo Exchange; a leader passionate about people, mentorship, and building a career with purpose.

We talk through the experiences that shaped her journey, the unexpected turns along the way, and what leadership looks like after nearly 30 years of growing within one company.

Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.

JOHN STERLING

Pannonica Z Maruna — Mon, 01 Jun 2026 23:00:00 GMT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with John Sterling: an environmental leader and advocate passionate about conservation, community, and creating meaningful impact.

We talk through the experiences that shaped his journey, the unexpected turns along the way, and what leadership looks like when your work is driven by purpose.

Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.

TAMMY SMITH

Pannonica Z Maruna — Tue, 19 May 2026 22:30:00 GMT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Tammy Smith: a retired Major General, leadership advisor, and advocate known for leading with authenticity, courage, and purpose.

We talk through the experiences that shaped her journey, from serving at the highest levels of the U.S. Army to becoming a powerful voice for inclusive leadership and meaningful change.

Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.

FRANZ MARUNA

Pannonica Z Maruna — Wed, 30 Jul 2025 22:23:50 GMT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Franz Maruna: a tech founder and creative builder with a path that’s anything but linear. We talk about where he is now, the future he imagined after high school, and the unexpected turns that shaped his journey. From odd side gigs to shifts in identity and perspective, Franz shares honest reflections on what it really means to grow, adapt, and let go of the script.

Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.

Let’s get into it.

ANDY ROBBINS

Pannonica Z Maruna — Thu, 11 Sep 2025 18:00:00 GMT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Andy Robbins: whose path spans creativity, leadership, and lifelong learning.

We dive into the twists that took him from Intel to founding Oyster PDX, the lessons he didn’t see coming, and why getting off-script was the best thing that could’ve happened.

Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.

ARNOLD STRONG

Pannonica Z Maruna — Fri, 10 Apr 2026 22:10:20 GMT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Arnold Strong, a leader whose journey is rooted in service, resilience, and perspective.We talk through the moments that defined his path; from growing up in California to serving in the military, and how those experiences shaped the way he leads, thinks, and shows up today.Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.

OLIVER LEONETTI

Pannonica Z Maruna — Fri, 14 Nov 2025 03:09:49 GMT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Oliver Leonetti: an entrepreneur, strategist, and community-builder whose work blends creativity, business intuition, and a bias toward action.

We dig into the twists that shaped his path—from early projects that taught him how to build from scratch to the ventures and leadership experiences that pushed him to think bigger, move faster, and stay grounded in purpose. Oliver shares what he’s learned about following momentum, taking smart risks, and designing a life where curiosity becomes a competitive advantage.

Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.

HERMAN D'HOOGE

Pannonica Z Maruna — Tue, 30 Sep 2025 18:00:01 GMT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Herman D’Hooge: a technologist, innovator, and mentor whose career spans engineering, design, and organizational transformation.

We explore the unexpected turns that shaped his path from leading at Intel to rethinking how people and organizations thrive and the insights he’s gained about embracing curiosity, connecting dots, and challenging the status quo.

Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.

TODD GRECO

Pannonica Z Maruna — Wed, 10 Sep 2025 01:42:49 GMT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Todd Greco: a design leader, strategist, and educator whose journey spans architecture, tech, and creative direction. We talk about the vision he had early on, the pivots he didn’t expect, and how each chapter shaped how he leads today.

From design studios to DJ booths, Todd shares honest reflections on uncertainty, reinvention, and staying grounded through change, offering insight into what it really means to carve your own path.

Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.

JOHN CRAFT

Pannonica Z Maruna — Tue, 24 Mar 2026 21:00:00 GMT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with John Craft: a sales and business development leader who blends strategy, creativity, and a talent for building high-performing teams.

We talk through the moments that shaped his path, from where he started to how he learned to lead, sell, and think differently at the highest level.

Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.

CLAUDIA BRIND-WOODY

Pannonica Z Maruna — Thu, 02 Apr 2026 23:00:00 GMT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Claudia Brind-Woody: a global technology leader, advocate, and changemaker whose career spans business, athletics, and groundbreaking work in LGBTQ+ and women’s leadership.

We talk through the moments that shaped her path—from her early roots in athletics to leading at the highest levels of IBM, and how she’s used her platform to drive meaningful change and open doors for others.

Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.