<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Deeply Human Leading with Lee Ann Del Carpio & Gretchen Terry-Leonard]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>AI is transforming every industry. But the leaders deploying it are being asked to change faster than any model prepared them for.</p><p></p><p>Deeply Human Leading is a weekly podcast for leaders navigating the gap between the intelligence they're deploying and the human capacity to lead alongside it.</p><p></p><p>Hosted by Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard — who've spent decades guiding leaders through disruption, complexity, and systems change — each episode explores what it takes to lead with clarity, courage, and discernment when the ground is shifting.</p><p></p><p>New episodes every Tuesday.</p><p></p><p>VISIT: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com" target="_blank">https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com</a></p>]]></description><link>https://riverside.com</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 06:46:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/sPVw1KoW.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Deeply Human, Inc.]]></author><pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2026 01:56:35 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Deeply Human, Inc.]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Management]]></category><category><![CDATA[Education]]></category><itunes:author>Deeply Human, Inc.</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;AI is transforming every industry. But the leaders deploying it are being asked to change faster than any model prepared them for.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Deeply Human Leading is a weekly podcast for leaders navigating the gap between the intelligence they&apos;re deploying and the human capacity to lead alongside it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hosted by Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard — who&apos;ve spent decades guiding leaders through disruption, complexity, and systems change — each episode explores what it takes to lead with clarity, courage, and discernment when the ground is shifting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;New episodes every Tuesday.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;VISIT: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Deeply Human, Inc.</itunes:name><itunes:email>hello@deeplyhumanleading.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Management"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Education"/><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/logos/bc57478a-6c1a-46d5-8070-a76e6b7a4433.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[AI Made Every Dashboard Green. Then Customer Trust Collapsed. | 006]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>What happens when an AI gold rush mentality drives boards and senior leaders to drive for cost savings and efficiency at a breathless pace? <br /><br />Klarna replaced 700 customer service employees with AI. Month one: 2.3 million conversations handled. Resolution time cut to two minutes. $60 million in projected savings. Every metric on the dashboard was green. Then customer satisfaction collapsed, complaints surged, and the CEO went on Bloomberg and said four words: "We went too far."<br /><br />In this episode, Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard explore the seductive pull of cost savings, speed and efficiency in AI deployment at the expense of other measures of organizational vitality, and why the things that look measurably successful can quietly destroy the things that matter most: trust, institutional knowledge, and the human relationships that built your brand in the first place.<br /><br /><b>What you'll explore in this episode:</b><br />  • Why Klarna's "green dashboard" masked a collapse in customer trust<br />  • How Air Canada's chatbot hallucinated a bereavement fare and triggered a legal ruling<br />  • What happened when CNET used AI to write 77 financial articles with inaccurate math<br />  • The paradox leaders face: speed AND quality, not speed OR quality<br />  • How AI amplifies your existing leadership clarity (or your existing confusion)<br />  • The difference between measurable gains and immeasurable losses<br />  • Why the most critical leadership skill in the AI age may be knowing when to slow down<br /></p><p><b>CHAPTERS:</b><br />0:00 – Introduction<br />1:14 – The Klarna case: 700 employees replaced, every metric green<br />7:27 – Air Canada's chatbot hallucination and legal fallout<br />9:14 – When AI damages your leadership brand (the 360-feedback story)<br />11:29 – Institutional knowledge, context, and what AI replaces without asking<br />12:56 – The intent gap: AI amplifies your leadership clarity or your confusion<br />14:14 – CNET's 77 inaccurate AI-written financial articles<br />16:30 – The AI arms race and adrenaline-driven decision making<br />17:30 – The paradox: speed AND quality as mutually complementary forces<br />21:17 – Reputational damage, trust, and the real cost of going too fast<br />22:35 – What we gain in efficiency vs. what we lose in the immeasurable<br />23:45 – The question to take with you: Where can you balance speed and quality?<br /><br /><b>ABOUT THE HOSTS:</b><br />Lee Ann Del Carpio is the founder and CEO of Deeply Human, Inc., with 25+ years guiding senior leaders through transformation in healthcare, biotech, and mission-driven organizations.<br /><br />Gretchen Terry-Leonard is the Chief Strategy &amp; Impact Officer at the Center for Deeply Human Leadership, building the research institution investigating what sustained AI-assisted decision-making does to human judgment and moral agency.<br /><br /><b>CONNECT WITH US:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com" target="_blank">https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com</a><br />Newsletter (The Deep Signal): <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738" target="_blank">https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738</a><br />Spotify: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv</a><br />YouTube: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading</a><br />Lee Ann on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/</a><br />Gretchen on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">633eb710-e574-4f4b-b56c-ecc4ffb70dda</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Deeply Human, Inc.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2026 16:37:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/523084276fcc4cd5ac45c2755cc0fd0ea53c33cf772c36a9218ea359c308ba31/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI2MzNlYjcxMC1lNTc0LTRmNGItYjU2Yy1lY2M0ZmZiNzBkZGEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI2OTM1MDVkOS1kMDk3LTRmODEtYTcyYi01OWRkYWYwMTdhYzUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OWEwYzFmMjMwODI4Mzc0MjliNTMzYjIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjllYzMzYjdmYWRiZTc5YmY2MmViNjY2L2RlZXBseS1odW1hbnMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNC0yNV9fNS0yMy0zNS5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="47004673" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/episodes/633eb710-e574-4f4b-b56c-ecc4ffb70dda/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;What happens when an AI gold rush mentality drives boards and senior leaders to drive for cost savings and efficiency at a breathless pace? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Klarna replaced 700 customer service employees with AI. Month one: 2.3 million conversations handled. Resolution time cut to two minutes. $60 million in projected savings. Every metric on the dashboard was green. Then customer satisfaction collapsed, complaints surged, and the CEO went on Bloomberg and said four words: &quot;We went too far.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this episode, Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard explore the seductive pull of cost savings, speed and efficiency in AI deployment at the expense of other measures of organizational vitality, and why the things that look measurably successful can quietly destroy the things that matter most: trust, institutional knowledge, and the human relationships that built your brand in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;What you&apos;ll explore in this episode:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  • Why Klarna&apos;s &quot;green dashboard&quot; masked a collapse in customer trust&lt;br /&gt;  • How Air Canada&apos;s chatbot hallucinated a bereavement fare and triggered a legal ruling&lt;br /&gt;  • What happened when CNET used AI to write 77 financial articles with inaccurate math&lt;br /&gt;  • The paradox leaders face: speed AND quality, not speed OR quality&lt;br /&gt;  • How AI amplifies your existing leadership clarity (or your existing confusion)&lt;br /&gt;  • The difference between measurable gains and immeasurable losses&lt;br /&gt;  • Why the most critical leadership skill in the AI age may be knowing when to slow down&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;CHAPTERS:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;0:00 – Introduction&lt;br /&gt;1:14 – The Klarna case: 700 employees replaced, every metric green&lt;br /&gt;7:27 – Air Canada&apos;s chatbot hallucination and legal fallout&lt;br /&gt;9:14 – When AI damages your leadership brand (the 360-feedback story)&lt;br /&gt;11:29 – Institutional knowledge, context, and what AI replaces without asking&lt;br /&gt;12:56 – The intent gap: AI amplifies your leadership clarity or your confusion&lt;br /&gt;14:14 – CNET&apos;s 77 inaccurate AI-written financial articles&lt;br /&gt;16:30 – The AI arms race and adrenaline-driven decision making&lt;br /&gt;17:30 – The paradox: speed AND quality as mutually complementary forces&lt;br /&gt;21:17 – Reputational damage, trust, and the real cost of going too fast&lt;br /&gt;22:35 – What we gain in efficiency vs. what we lose in the immeasurable&lt;br /&gt;23:45 – The question to take with you: Where can you balance speed and quality?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ABOUT THE HOSTS:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lee Ann Del Carpio is the founder and CEO of Deeply Human, Inc., with 25+ years guiding senior leaders through transformation in healthcare, biotech, and mission-driven organizations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gretchen Terry-Leonard is the Chief Strategy &amp;amp; Impact Officer at the Center for Deeply Human Leadership, building the research institution investigating what sustained AI-assisted decision-making does to human judgment and moral agency.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;CONNECT WITH US:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Newsletter (The Deep Signal): &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Spotify: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;YouTube: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lee Ann on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gretchen on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:24:29</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/logos/bc57478a-6c1a-46d5-8070-a76e6b7a4433.png"/><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:title>AI Made Every Dashboard Green. Then Customer Trust Collapsed. | 006</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Women Founders and AI: Why the Biggest Opportunity Is Right Now | 005]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Jensen Huang just told podcaster Lex Friedman that AGI is here. But while the media debates what that means, a different conversation is happening among founders: What will I build with it?</p><p></p><p>In this episode of Deeply Human Leading, Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard explore what the coming of artificial general intelligence means for people with ideas, purpose, and the courage to create — especially women and founders over 50 who bring decades of wisdom to a moment that desperately needs it.</p><p></p><p>In this episode, they discuss:</p><p>• What AGI actually means and why Jensen Huang’s definition has relevance for everyday founders</p><p>• The 25% gap in women’s AI adoption and why that’s both a challenge and an opportunity</p><p>• The $1.6 trillion economic gap that won’t close with technology designed by teams that don’t understand it</p><p>• Why people over 50 represent 25% of all new entrepreneurs (AARP data)</p><p>• How AI has demolished the technical barrier that used to stand between a good idea and a real business</p><p>• The shift from participation to creation and why whoever builds the technology determines what it becomes This is not AI hype.</p><p></p><p>This is a grounded, honest conversation about what it takes within yourself to step into this moment to create real impact in a rapidly changing world.</p><p></p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b> </p><p>0:00 — Jensen Huang says AGI is here: what does that mean?</p><p>1:57 — AGI vs. narrow AI: the real difference</p><p>3:44 — Why this moment is uniquely powerful for founders in their 50s</p><p>5:02 — The 25% gender gap in AI adoption</p><p>10:21 — Shaping what AI learns about humanity</p><p>15:46 — From participation to creation: the real invitation</p><p></p><p><b>ABOUT THE HOSTS:</b></p><p>Lee Ann Del Carpio is the founder and CEO of Deeply Human™ and the Center for Deeply Human Leadership. With 25+ years guiding senior leaders through transformation in healthcare, biotech, and complex systems, she helps leaders reawaken what only humans can bring: relational wisdom, discernment, and the ability to shape systems that serve life.</p><p></p><p>Gretchen Terry-Leonard is Chief Strategy &amp; Impact Officer at CDHL. She built 26 Health Equity Fellowships with top-tier academic medical centers and generated $35M+ in strategic value through partnerships that compound. She is the author of Your Second Prime: Does Aging Suck or Do We Suck at Aging?</p><p></p><p><b>CONNECT WITH US:</b></p><p>Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com" target="_blank">https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com</a></p><p>Newsletter (The Deep Signal): <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738" target="_blank">https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738</a></p><p>Spotify: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv</a></p><p>YouTube: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading</a></p><p>Lee Ann on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/</a></p><p>Gretchen on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">ea7898f4-9d22-4107-9caf-e4171c189216</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Deeply Human, Inc.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2026 16:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/01e2e8f4cdf65aac7307e6e59717298f45d1de263fea534a4e2b82c2b0b8aeb3/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJlYTc4OThmNC05ZDIyLTQxMDctOWNhZi1lNDE3MWMxODkyMTYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI2OTM1MDVkOS1kMDk3LTRmODEtYTcyYi01OWRkYWYwMTdhYzUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OWEwYzFmMjMwODI4Mzc0MjliNTMzYjIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjlkNWFkYzBkYmI3YjUwZWFiZTI4OGE4L2RlZXBseS1odW1hbnMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNC04X18zLTIyLTcubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="26881401" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/episodes/ea7898f4-9d22-4107-9caf-e4171c189216/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Jensen Huang just told podcaster Lex Friedman that AGI is here. But while the media debates what that means, a different conversation is happening among founders: What will I build with it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Deeply Human Leading, Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard explore what the coming of artificial general intelligence means for people with ideas, purpose, and the courage to create — especially women and founders over 50 who bring decades of wisdom to a moment that desperately needs it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, they discuss:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;• What AGI actually means and why Jensen Huang’s definition has relevance for everyday founders&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;• The 25% gap in women’s AI adoption and why that’s both a challenge and an opportunity&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;• The $1.6 trillion economic gap that won’t close with technology designed by teams that don’t understand it&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;• Why people over 50 represent 25% of all new entrepreneurs (AARP data)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;• How AI has demolished the technical barrier that used to stand between a good idea and a real business&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;• The shift from participation to creation and why whoever builds the technology determines what it becomes This is not AI hype.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is a grounded, honest conversation about what it takes within yourself to step into this moment to create real impact in a rapidly changing world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;CHAPTERS&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;0:00 — Jensen Huang says AGI is here: what does that mean?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:57 — AGI vs. narrow AI: the real difference&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3:44 — Why this moment is uniquely powerful for founders in their 50s&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;5:02 — The 25% gender gap in AI adoption&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;10:21 — Shaping what AI learns about humanity&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;15:46 — From participation to creation: the real invitation&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;ABOUT THE HOSTS:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lee Ann Del Carpio is the founder and CEO of Deeply Human™ and the Center for Deeply Human Leadership. With 25+ years guiding senior leaders through transformation in healthcare, biotech, and complex systems, she helps leaders reawaken what only humans can bring: relational wisdom, discernment, and the ability to shape systems that serve life.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gretchen Terry-Leonard is Chief Strategy &amp;amp; Impact Officer at CDHL. She built 26 Health Equity Fellowships with top-tier academic medical centers and generated $35M+ in strategic value through partnerships that compound. She is the author of Your Second Prime: Does Aging Suck or Do We Suck at Aging?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;CONNECT WITH US:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Website: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Newsletter (The Deep Signal): &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Spotify: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;YouTube: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lee Ann on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gretchen on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:18:40</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/logos/bc57478a-6c1a-46d5-8070-a76e6b7a4433.png"/><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Women Founders and AI: Why the Biggest Opportunity Is Right Now | 005</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[How to Lead When No One Can Predict What AI Will Do Next | 004]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>A powerful new AI documentary is leaving audiences shaken. Lee Ann saw it opening week and Gretchen has been studying the debate from the outside. Together they unpack what it means for leaders who are trying to hold both the promise and the peril of AI without collapsing into either hyper optimism or panic.</p><p></p><p>This is not another episode about AI tools or productivity hacks. This is about the deeper question: How do you lead when nobody can predict what happens next? When the old model of predict-and-control no longer works? When every interaction you have with AI is quietly shaping what AI learns about humanity?</p><p></p><p><b>In this conversation, Lee Ann and Gretchen explore:</b></p><p>• What the "Apocaloptimist" stance is and how it seeks to balance both the existential risk and extraordinary promise of AI</p><p>• What happens to your nervous system when you first grasp the full scope of AI’s impact (and how to move through it)</p><p>• Why the predict-and-control operating model from the Industrial Era is failing leaders in the Age of AI</p><p>• Five practices for co-creating with AI that preserve your agency, values, and discernment</p><p>• How every single interaction you have with AI teaches it something about humanity and why that matters more than most people realize</p><p>• The difference between intelligence and wisdom, and why that distinction is the leadership question of our time</p><p></p><p><b>CHAPTERS:</b></p><p>00:00 — The AI documentary that frames both AI promise and peril</p><p>05:36 — When AI awareness hits your nervous system</p><p>07:39 — Personal agency and the role of corporations</p><p>09:57 — Why predict-and-control is the wrong operating model</p><p>12:22 — Changing your relationship with uncertainty</p><p>22:21 — What co-creation actually looks like in practice</p><p></p><p><b>ABOUT THE HOSTS:</b></p><p>Lee Ann Del Carpio is the founder and CEO of Deeply Human™ and the Center for Deeply Human Leadership. With 25+ years guiding senior leaders through transformation in healthcare, biotech, and complex systems, she helps leaders reawaken what only humans can bring: relational wisdom, discernment, and the ability to shape systems that serve life.</p><p></p><p>Gretchen Terry-Leonard is Chief Strategy &amp; Impact Officer at CDHL. She built 26 Health Equity Fellowships with top-tier academic medical centers and generated $35M+ in strategic value through partnerships that compound. She is the author of Your Second Prime: Does Aging Suck or Do We Suck at Aging?</p><p></p><p><b>CONNECT WITH US:</b></p><p>Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com" target="_blank">https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com</a></p><p>Newsletter (The Deep Signal): <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738" target="_blank">https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738</a></p><p>Spotify: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv</a></p><p>YouTube: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading</a></p><p>Lee Ann on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/</a></p><p>Gretchen on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">1ddafa04-adda-4639-867c-1aadb0d67fc1</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Deeply Human, Inc.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 01:05:39 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/e38f857aee681e521c6e12e128538691c43db1f5ff8a77da9c953c58fa6f9248/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIxZGRhZmEwNC1hZGRhLTQ2MzktODY3Yy0xYWFkYjBkNjdmYzEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI2OTM1MDVkOS1kMDk3LTRmODEtYTcyYi01OWRkYWYwMTdhYzUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OWEwYzFmMjMwODI4Mzc0MjliNTMzYjIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjllMDJhZWU2MDkyNTdkNjZmNjYwOWZkL2RlZXBseS1odW1hbnMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNC0xNl9fMi0xOC01NC5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="49451197" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/episodes/1ddafa04-adda-4639-867c-1aadb0d67fc1/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;A powerful new AI documentary is leaving audiences shaken. Lee Ann saw it opening week and Gretchen has been studying the debate from the outside. Together they unpack what it means for leaders who are trying to hold both the promise and the peril of AI without collapsing into either hyper optimism or panic.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is not another episode about AI tools or productivity hacks. This is about the deeper question: How do you lead when nobody can predict what happens next? When the old model of predict-and-control no longer works? When every interaction you have with AI is quietly shaping what AI learns about humanity?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;In this conversation, Lee Ann and Gretchen explore:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;• What the &quot;Apocaloptimist&quot; stance is and how it seeks to balance both the existential risk and extraordinary promise of AI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;• What happens to your nervous system when you first grasp the full scope of AI’s impact (and how to move through it)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;• Why the predict-and-control operating model from the Industrial Era is failing leaders in the Age of AI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;• Five practices for co-creating with AI that preserve your agency, values, and discernment&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;• How every single interaction you have with AI teaches it something about humanity and why that matters more than most people realize&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;• The difference between intelligence and wisdom, and why that distinction is the leadership question of our time&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;CHAPTERS:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;00:00 — The AI documentary that frames both AI promise and peril&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;05:36 — When AI awareness hits your nervous system&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;07:39 — Personal agency and the role of corporations&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;09:57 — Why predict-and-control is the wrong operating model&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;12:22 — Changing your relationship with uncertainty&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;22:21 — What co-creation actually looks like in practice&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;ABOUT THE HOSTS:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lee Ann Del Carpio is the founder and CEO of Deeply Human™ and the Center for Deeply Human Leadership. With 25+ years guiding senior leaders through transformation in healthcare, biotech, and complex systems, she helps leaders reawaken what only humans can bring: relational wisdom, discernment, and the ability to shape systems that serve life.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gretchen Terry-Leonard is Chief Strategy &amp;amp; Impact Officer at CDHL. She built 26 Health Equity Fellowships with top-tier academic medical centers and generated $35M+ in strategic value through partnerships that compound. She is the author of Your Second Prime: Does Aging Suck or Do We Suck at Aging?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;CONNECT WITH US:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Website: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Newsletter (The Deep Signal): &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Spotify: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;YouTube: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lee Ann on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gretchen on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:34:20</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/logos/bc57478a-6c1a-46d5-8070-a76e6b7a4433.png"/><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:title>How to Lead When No One Can Predict What AI Will Do Next | 004</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Raising Kids Who Can Lead in an AI World - Without the Panic | 003]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Something is changing faster than your brain can clock. You already feel it… at the dinner table, in school conversations, in the quiet worry about what your children will actually be equipped for. This episode doesn't add to the noise. It helps you find your footing.</p><p> </p><p>Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard, both parents and leaders, sit down to have the conversation most people are having in their heads but not yet out loud: what does it actually mean to raise humans who can thrive in an age of intelligent machines?</p><p><b> </b></p><p><b>In this episode, you’ll explore:</b></p><ul><li>Why our brains are notoriously bad at processing exponential change and how that affects our ability to guide the next generation</li><li>The concept of 'desire difficulty': why choosing the hard thing is not old-fashioned, it's neurological infrastructure</li><li>The calculator precedent and what history teaches us about every new tool that threatens education</li><li>Grapple before you grab for AI… one phrase that changes What Gretchen's 11-year-old building a Roblox game with zero coding experience teaches us about human-AI co-creation</li><li>Metacognition as the defining leadership skill: learning to observe your own mind as a practice, not a concept</li><li>How to use AI as a thought partner rather than an order-taker and why the difference matters enormously</li></ul><p></p><p><b>Timestamps:</b></p><p>0:00 — Introduction: Raising humans in the age of intelligent machines</p><p>1:26 — Matt Schumer’s viral post: “Something Big Is Happening”</p><p>3:34 — The before and after: processing the pace of change</p><p>6:32 — Absorbing disruption: fear, grief, and the 10% test</p><p>14:30 — What schools are (and aren’t) teaching about AI</p><p>21:43 — Why Silicon Valley sends their kids to Montessori and Waldorf schools</p><p>31:32 — Cognitive offloading, desire difficulty, and metacognition</p><p>43:06 — Designing your relationship with AI</p><p></p><p><b>About the hosts:</b></p><p>Lee Ann Del Carpio is the CEO &amp; Founder of Deeply Human, Inc., with 25+ years guiding senior leaders through transformation in healthcare, biotech, and mission-driven organizations. Gretchen Terry-Leonard is the Chief Strategy &amp; Impact Officer at the Center for Deeply Human Leadership (CDHL), bringing a track record that includes 26 Health Equity Fellowships with top-tier academic medical centers and $35M+ in strategic value through purpose-aligned partnerships. Together, they co-founded CDHL to investigate what sustained AI-assisted decision-making does to human judgment, discernment, and moral agency.</p><p></p><p><b>Connect with us:</b></p><p>Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com" target="_blank">https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com</a></p><p>Newsletter (The Deep Signal): <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738" target="_blank">https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738</a></p><p>Spotify: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv</a></p><p>YouTube: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading</a></p><p>Lee Ann on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/</a></p><p>Gretchen on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">71cd3d1b-1830-4785-9a49-01550e037015</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Deeply Human, Inc.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 16:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/91a6a93331e04503e42b274f2ef90f97bd84ed4d49375f1f754eadd3d95655c0/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI3MWNkM2QxYi0xODMwLTQ3ODUtOWE0OS0wMTU1MGUwMzcwMTUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI2OTM1MDVkOS1kMDk3LTRmODEtYTcyYi01OWRkYWYwMTdhYzUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OWEwYzFmMjMwODI4Mzc0MjliNTMzYjIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjlhYjgwYjdhZDc0ODk1OGUxYjEyODliL2RlZXBseS1odW1hbnMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMy03X18yLTM0LTQ3Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="67671292" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/episodes/71cd3d1b-1830-4785-9a49-01550e037015/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Something is changing faster than your brain can clock. You already feel it… at the dinner table, in school conversations, in the quiet worry about what your children will actually be equipped for. This episode doesn&apos;t add to the noise. It helps you find your footing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard, both parents and leaders, sit down to have the conversation most people are having in their heads but not yet out loud: what does it actually mean to raise humans who can thrive in an age of intelligent machines?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;In this episode, you’ll explore:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why our brains are notoriously bad at processing exponential change and how that affects our ability to guide the next generation&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The concept of &apos;desire difficulty&apos;: why choosing the hard thing is not old-fashioned, it&apos;s neurological infrastructure&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The calculator precedent and what history teaches us about every new tool that threatens education&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Grapple before you grab for AI… one phrase that changes What Gretchen&apos;s 11-year-old building a Roblox game with zero coding experience teaches us about human-AI co-creation&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Metacognition as the defining leadership skill: learning to observe your own mind as a practice, not a concept&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;How to use AI as a thought partner rather than an order-taker and why the difference matters enormously&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Timestamps:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;0:00 — Introduction: Raising humans in the age of intelligent machines&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:26 — Matt Schumer’s viral post: “Something Big Is Happening”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3:34 — The before and after: processing the pace of change&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;6:32 — Absorbing disruption: fear, grief, and the 10% test&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;14:30 — What schools are (and aren’t) teaching about AI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;21:43 — Why Silicon Valley sends their kids to Montessori and Waldorf schools&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;31:32 — Cognitive offloading, desire difficulty, and metacognition&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;43:06 — Designing your relationship with AI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;About the hosts:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lee Ann Del Carpio is the CEO &amp;amp; Founder of Deeply Human, Inc., with 25+ years guiding senior leaders through transformation in healthcare, biotech, and mission-driven organizations. Gretchen Terry-Leonard is the Chief Strategy &amp;amp; Impact Officer at the Center for Deeply Human Leadership (CDHL), bringing a track record that includes 26 Health Equity Fellowships with top-tier academic medical centers and $35M+ in strategic value through purpose-aligned partnerships. Together, they co-founded CDHL to investigate what sustained AI-assisted decision-making does to human judgment, discernment, and moral agency.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Connect with us:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Website: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Newsletter (The Deep Signal): &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Spotify: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;YouTube: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lee Ann on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gretchen on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:47:00</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/logos/bc57478a-6c1a-46d5-8070-a76e6b7a4433.png"/><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Raising Kids Who Can Lead in an AI World - Without the Panic | 003</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[For Every $1,000 Spent on AI, Only $1 Goes to Understanding Its Human Impact | 002]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>“I'm only human." We say it like an apology… for forgetting, for falling short, for being imperfect. But what if being human isn't the limitation? What if it's the thing we haven't invested in deeply enough?<br /><br />In Episode 002 of the Deeply Human Leading podcast, Gretchen and Lee Ann unpack the difference between being "only human" — what Lee Ann calls our "default human" mode, the fight-flight-freeze response we fall back on under stress — and being deeply human: intentional, grounded, discerning, and awake to the inner capacities that no technology can replicate.<br /><br /><b>In this episode, you’ll explore:</b><br />— Why your nervous system is your most underrated leadership tool<br />— The “default human” trap — and how to recognize when you’re in it<br />— Why McKinsey is now hiring liberal arts majors over technical specialists<br />— The staggering $1,000-to-$1 AI spending gap — and why it matters to every leader<br />— How AI can serve as a mirror for human self-discovery <br />— The “inner technologies” that match the pace of outer technologies<br />— Why knowing what you stand for is now a survival skill, not just an exercise</p><p><br /><b>Headlines referenced in this episode:</b><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://fortune.com/2026/01/14/how-to-get-hired-at-mckinsey-ai-tools-liberal-arts-creativity/" target="_blank">https://fortune.com/2026/01/14/how-to-get-hired-at-mckinsey-ai-tools-liberal-arts-creativity/</a><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://longnow.org/ideas/inspired-by-intelligence-rediscovering-human-purpose-in-the-age-of-ai/" target="_blank">https://longnow.org/ideas/inspired-by-intelligence-rediscovering-human-purpose-in-the-age-of-ai/</a><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://brenebrown.com/book/daring-greatly/" target="_blank">https://brenebrown.com/book/daring-greatly/</a><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://a.co/d/0fLAVzvm" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/0fLAVzvm</a><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://a.co/d/0bByTecZ" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/0bByTecZ</a><br /><br /><b>About the hosts:</b><br />Lee Ann Del Carpio is the CEO &amp; Founder of Deeply Human, Inc., with 25+ years guiding senior leaders through transformation in healthcare, biotech, and mission-driven organizations. Gretchen Terry-Leonard is the Chief Strategy &amp; Impact Officer at the Center for Deeply Human Leadership (CDHL), bringing a track record that includes 26 Health Equity Fellowships with top-tier academic medical centers and $35M+ in strategic value through purpose-aligned partnerships. Together, they co-founded CDHL to investigate what sustained AI-assisted collaboration does to the human brain, to human discernment, decision-making, and to personal agency.<br /><br /><b>Connect with us:</b><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com" target="_blank">https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com</a><br />Newsletter (The Deep Signal): <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738" target="_blank">https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738</a><br />Spotify: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv</a><br />YouTube: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading</a><br />Lee Ann on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/</a><br />Gretchen on LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">81078d4f-c840-4e89-83aa-329d1abbaf49</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Deeply Human, Inc.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 15:45:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/0b3e3b8523451f9d6a683a0201138104684baf8afbdd8b317728196f2b63e242/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI4MTA3OGQ0Zi1jODQwLTRlODktODNhYS0zMjlkMWFiYmFmNDkiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI2OTM1MDVkOS1kMDk3LTRmODEtYTcyYi01OWRkYWYwMTdhYzUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OWEwYzFmMjMwODI4Mzc0MjliNTMzYjIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjljMzUyODVjMDhkNTkzZmY5NWEyMTQ2L2RlZXBseS1odW1hbnMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMy0yNV9fNC0xMi00Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="39363126" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/episodes/81078d4f-c840-4e89-83aa-329d1abbaf49/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;“I&apos;m only human.&quot; We say it like an apology… for forgetting, for falling short, for being imperfect. But what if being human isn&apos;t the limitation? What if it&apos;s the thing we haven&apos;t invested in deeply enough?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Episode 002 of the Deeply Human Leading podcast, Gretchen and Lee Ann unpack the difference between being &quot;only human&quot; — what Lee Ann calls our &quot;default human&quot; mode, the fight-flight-freeze response we fall back on under stress — and being deeply human: intentional, grounded, discerning, and awake to the inner capacities that no technology can replicate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;In this episode, you’ll explore:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;— Why your nervous system is your most underrated leadership tool&lt;br /&gt;— The “default human” trap — and how to recognize when you’re in it&lt;br /&gt;— Why McKinsey is now hiring liberal arts majors over technical specialists&lt;br /&gt;— The staggering $1,000-to-$1 AI spending gap — and why it matters to every leader&lt;br /&gt;— How AI can serve as a mirror for human self-discovery &lt;br /&gt;— The “inner technologies” that match the pace of outer technologies&lt;br /&gt;— Why knowing what you stand for is now a survival skill, not just an exercise&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Headlines referenced in this episode:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://fortune.com/2026/01/14/how-to-get-hired-at-mckinsey-ai-tools-liberal-arts-creativity/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://fortune.com/2026/01/14/how-to-get-hired-at-mckinsey-ai-tools-liberal-arts-creativity/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://longnow.org/ideas/inspired-by-intelligence-rediscovering-human-purpose-in-the-age-of-ai/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://longnow.org/ideas/inspired-by-intelligence-rediscovering-human-purpose-in-the-age-of-ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://brenebrown.com/book/daring-greatly/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://brenebrown.com/book/daring-greatly/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://a.co/d/0fLAVzvm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://a.co/d/0fLAVzvm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://a.co/d/0bByTecZ&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://a.co/d/0bByTecZ&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;About the hosts:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lee Ann Del Carpio is the CEO &amp;amp; Founder of Deeply Human, Inc., with 25+ years guiding senior leaders through transformation in healthcare, biotech, and mission-driven organizations. Gretchen Terry-Leonard is the Chief Strategy &amp;amp; Impact Officer at the Center for Deeply Human Leadership (CDHL), bringing a track record that includes 26 Health Equity Fellowships with top-tier academic medical centers and $35M+ in strategic value through purpose-aligned partnerships. Together, they co-founded CDHL to investigate what sustained AI-assisted collaboration does to the human brain, to human discernment, decision-making, and to personal agency.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Connect with us:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Newsletter (The Deep Signal): &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Spotify: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/4r7WnDnCOKqsgE8ShClMcv&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;YouTube: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lee Ann on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gretchen on LinkedIn: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:27:20</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/logos/bc57478a-6c1a-46d5-8070-a76e6b7a4433.png"/><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:title>For Every $1,000 Spent on AI, Only $1 Goes to Understanding Its Human Impact | 002</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[What Happens to Human Leadership When AI Gets Smarter Than You? | 001]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>What happens to your identity, your expertise, and your leadership when AI can do parts of what you've spent your career building? </p><p></p><p>In the first episode of the Deeply Human Leading Podcast, hosts Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard explore the question no one is asking loudly enough: as AI becomes embedded in how we work, decide, and lead, what happens to the humans inside the system? </p><p></p><p>This isn't a podcast about AI tools or tactics. Deeply Human Leading sits in a third space — between AI anxiety and AI hype — exploring what it actually means to lead in an era of accelerating intelligence. </p><p></p><p>New episodes weekly. </p><p></p><p>The Future of Leadership is Deeply Human. </p><p></p><p>SUBSCRIBE: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading" target="_blank">youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading</a> </p><p>NEWSLETTER: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738" target="_blank">https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738</a> </p><p>VISIT: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com" target="_blank">https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com</a>  </p><p>LINKEDIN: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/deeply-human-leading/" target="_blank">Deeply Human Leading</a> </p><p>Lee Ann: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/</a>  </p><p>Gretchen: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/</a> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">6dba0c15-f78e-4c86-9078-9742c3a5cd9d</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Deeply Human, Inc.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2026 02:10:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/8223d5d83bd729974a88d080c83072c03a9d74577c6775c953e8df21824a56a8/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI2ZGJhMGMxNS1mNzhlLTRjODYtOTA3OC05NzQyYzNhNWNkOWQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI2OTM1MDVkOS1kMDk3LTRmODEtYTcyYi01OWRkYWYwMTdhYzUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OWEwYzFmMjMwODI4Mzc0MjliNTMzYjIiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjliZTBmNmNlMjg4MmU2NjI5Njc4ZTRjL2RlZXBseS1odW1hbnMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMy0yMV9fNC0yNC0yOC5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="31668706" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/episodes/6dba0c15-f78e-4c86-9078-9742c3a5cd9d/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;What happens to your identity, your expertise, and your leadership when AI can do parts of what you&apos;ve spent your career building? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the first episode of the Deeply Human Leading Podcast, hosts Lee Ann Del Carpio and Gretchen Terry-Leonard explore the question no one is asking loudly enough: as AI becomes embedded in how we work, decide, and lead, what happens to the humans inside the system? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This isn&apos;t a podcast about AI tools or tactics. Deeply Human Leading sits in a third space — between AI anxiety and AI hype — exploring what it actually means to lead in an era of accelerating intelligence. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;New episodes weekly. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Future of Leadership is Deeply Human. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;SUBSCRIBE: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;youtube.com/@DeeplyHumanLeading&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;NEWSLETTER: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://deeply-human.kit.com/b1bfa01738&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;VISIT: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.deeplyhumanleading.com&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LINKEDIN: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/company/deeply-human-leading/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Deeply Human Leading&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lee Ann: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeanndelcarpio/&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gretchen: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-terry-leonard-8a92ab36/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:21:59</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/693505d9-d097-4f81-a72b-59ddaf017ac5/logos/bc57478a-6c1a-46d5-8070-a76e6b7a4433.png"/><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:title>What Happens to Human Leadership When AI Gets Smarter Than You? | 001</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>